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						I guess we here in Slovenia are 6 years ahead of Croatia with my optimistic estimate about their legal system change and denacification?  OSCE should stay for a while in order to control return of Serbs.  					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:24:31 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>s56a</dc:creator>
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						Then, See You  in six years, witahout any arrested bloggers and journalists (just because they profess ). : ]<br />
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Did anyone point out that Kosovo  is  higher then Serbia on this list (as two separate positions, for this and for last yaer) ?<br />
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&quot;It reflects the degree of freedom that journalists and news organisations enjoy in each country, and the efforts made by the authorities to respect and ensure respect for this freedom.&quot; (citation from the <i>How the index was compiled</i>).<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:27:56 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>maqdalena</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>gordanac</b></div><br />
...And OSCE mission is practically ended in Croatia, ... I will not discuss the issue anymore.Your view - your choice.See you in six years.. :))</blockquote><br />
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I also have no intention to discuss the situation in Croatia in details, not the political nor the social one, I just don’t see it so optimistic.<br />
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Your opinion, your choice, of course. <img src='/gfx/emoticons/smile.gif' alt='' /><br />
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And just a link to <a href='http://www.osce.org/croatia/' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>OSCE Mission to Croatia</a><br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:05:08 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Bonner D</dc:creator>
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						Whatever I talk is based on looking  &quot;at picture as a whole&quot; and figures describing social processes.<br />
As for ICTY, the real news is that Croatia became a member of UN SC (non-permanent).<br />
Maybe in six years we will be as well.<br />
And OSCE mission is practically ended in Croatia, btw, there is no need anymore, not as it used to be profiled and not as it is here.<br />
Since all of this is already a &quot;troll&quot;, (sorry,  Lucy) I will not discuss the issue anymore.<br />
Your view - your choice.<br />
See you in six years.. :))<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:44:42 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>gordanac</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: In six years...</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>gordanac</b></div>If it is going to happen at all, it will be in six years from now. That is how late we are.We share the space, but we do not share the time connected to different social processes (harassment and prosecuting bloggers included). What is happening to journalists today in Serbia, used to happen in Croatia six years ago.I hope I made myself more clear. ...</blockquote><br />
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Do you mean in six years we will have a Prime Minister in Serbia attacking the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and its judgements? Is that the progress that we need to wish for and follow to?<br />
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Croatia may be formally a few steps in front of Serbia in the process of getting the membership in the EU but the hole political situation and the real situation in the country is not far more different than in Serbia, in some questions, I would rather say, even worse!<br />
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I really don’t see this advantage and don’t understand this optimism about the situation in Croatia. Some of the OSCE observers in Croatia don’t see it also. Suppose we don’t look only the bride side of life!<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:54:07 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Bonner D</dc:creator>
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						If it is going to happen at all, it will be in six years from now. That is how late we are.We share the space, but we do not share the time connected to different social processes (harassment and prosecuting bloggers included). What is happening to journalists today in Serbia, used to happen in Croatia six years ago.<br />
I hope I made myself more clear.<br />
My personal wish is  to use Einstein definition of time connected with the speed of changes, but there are very few of us with that kind of wish....Maybe there will be more of us in six years from now... :))					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:55:46 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>gordanac</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>gordanac</b></div><br />
No.<br />
In Serbia in six years.<br />
That is &quot;how far&quot; (behind) in time are we (Serbia)  from Croatia today.</blockquote><br />
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I this aspect Serbia should trying to be far far away (in time and space) from Croatia... ( Ofcourse I am writting this with regard to the arresting of one blogger and one journalist described in S. Kusovec's last blog).<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:16:31 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>maqdalena</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: ?</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>in Croatia nowadays...In Serbia tomorow?</blockquote><br />
No.<br />
In Serbia in six years.<br />
That is &quot;how far&quot; (behind) in time are we (Serbia)  from Croatia today.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:20:22 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>gordanac</dc:creator>
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				<title>Why tomorow?</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>maqdalena</b></div>...In Serbia tomorow?</blockquote><br />
In Serbia from Wednesday :). Two days ago our <a href='http://www.mccannpr.co.yu/code/navigate.php?Id=1' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>agency</a> for the first time include one bloger in our media list and call him on press trip. He is specialist in the field of business software and his blog &quot;<a href='http://blog.poslovnisoftver.net/ ' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Poslovni softver</a>&quot; is dedicated to that (Poslovni softver on Serbian means Busines Software on English). Occasion was appropriate because it was Open Day in MK IT Business Solutions (SAP partner), part of <a href='http://www.mkgroup.co.yu/index_en.html' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>MK Group</a>. Miodrag was very satisfied to meet SAP general manager for Western Balkan. Client and Agency are very satisfied with <a href='http://blog.poslovnisoftver.net/kratke-vesti/kako-sap-pomaze-menadzeru-u-upravljanju-poslovanjem/' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>his report</a>.<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:14:17 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Miloje Sekulic</dc:creator>
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						&quot;Bloggers now threatened as much as journalists&quot; in Croatia nowadays...In Serbia tomorow?					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:53:37 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>maqdalena</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>It also measures the level of self-censorship in each country and the ability of the media to investigate and criticise. Financial pressure, which is increasingly common, is also assessed and incorporated into the final score.</blockquote>How can this kind of influence on the freedom of written word, freedom of speech (or freedom of choice in any kind of activity in life) be measured? This kind of drive will always be present, not only in journalism, but also in any other kind of work.<br />
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<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>Bloggers now threatened as much as journalists</blockquote>Can this fact can be interpreted in the way that the influence of the blog media is approaching the level of journals influence (sounds like SF in a way)					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:29:04 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>d j o l e</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>Srki</b></div><blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>Mungos</b></div>... that I have recently  received warning about my writing, here, in the country which stands strongly and the most loudly about freedom of speech and press freedom, as well.<br />
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Mongoose, The Not Scared</blockquote><br />
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What do you mean? How did you received the warning?<br />
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Verbally.<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:22:14 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Mungos</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>Mungos</b></div>... that I have recently  received warning about my writing, here, in the country which stands strongly and the most loudly about freedom of speech and press freedom, as well.<br />
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Mongoose, The Not Scared</blockquote><br />
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What do you mean? How did you received the warning?<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:09:16 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srki</dc:creator>
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						... that I have recently  received warning about my writing, here, in the country which stands strongly and the most loudly about freedom of speech and press freedom, as well.<br />
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Mongoose, The Not Scared					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:16:39 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Mungos</dc:creator>
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						Nice to be ahead of UK and France!  Lucy, come back to free Serbia asap <img src='/gfx/emoticons/smile.gif' alt='' /><br />
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:18:39 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>s56a</dc:creator>
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				<title>Important point...</title>
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						...let us hope that this will not really discourage the bloggers from writing. BTW, since we have had cases of threats against bloggers even here, on this blog, I can hardly say I'm surprised... Thanks, Lucy!					]]>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:08:30 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Milan M. Ćirković</dc:creator>
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