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				<title>Re: Before or after??</title>
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						I knew as soon as I'd posted my comment that it would offend, which it was never meant to - it was all meant lightheatedly. But in my own defence, surely I'm allowed to criticise?<br />
Yes, there is sexism in the UK of course, but not quite so blatant since the 80s. This comment was triggered by the unrelated photo posted on this thread - are you also going to respond to that person about being 'off topic'?<br />
As for your word of advice - don't need it thanks. Also don't need your xenophobic comment about British people and black slaves. How do you know I'm not black? Lots of people are in modern Britain.<br />
But you are free to write me off because of some flippant comments that I made and my nationality. Your chip, your shoulder.<br />
Actually, I really love Serbia, but just as you would feel if you lived in the UK, there are things that aren't quite so great. This is called free expression.<br />
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:44:38 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>kate22</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Before or after??</title>
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						You seem to have a lot of 'off topic' problems<br />
Word of advice:<br />
If you don't like it anything in Serbia, just LEAVE<br />
Go back to merry old England where people say please and thank you<br />
or men apparently don't have sexist attitudes<br />
I wonder if your people said please and thank you to their black slaves					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:44:07 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>salenacionale</dc:creator>
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				<title>Before or after??</title>
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						Now, were the people talking Italian all around you before or after rakija?!<br />
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I've been calling rakija 'clever juice' for a long time and I too find that it's a great linguistic aid. It also makes me very clever, but strangely noone else seems to agree with me on that. <br />
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Still having a problem on the saying please and thank you front - people in Serbia seem to find it very strange when you tell them that you always say thank you even at home with your family. Someone told me that it was like treating people like strangers.<br />
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Also have a problem with the puerile and sexist attitiude towards women from certain blokes who obviously don't have a real girlfriend or are still 15 (eg. poster on this thread). And the number of really beautiful women who slap on way too much make-up so they all look the same. Sisters - tone down the slap, bung on some jeans and just chill - true men don't want barbie dolls who pout. They want natural beauty, smiles and good conversation. But that's just my off topic point of view.<br />
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Generally I find the people of Serbia really nice and hospitable and great company. The British and Serbian senses of humour are very similar and I always have a really good laugh with my Serbian friends.<br />
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Has the long awaited moment arrived when you can buy skimmed milk in Belgrade? I must have missed that! About bloody time. I may move back now.<br />
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:59:37 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>kate22</dc:creator>
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				<title>Plant a tree</title>
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						Well learning a new language seems to me to be a bit like planting a tree:<br />
Not much to look at for the first few years and then it suddenly seems to just all come together.. -after a year or two of expressing yourself like a three-year old.<br />
The problem comes when you get treated like one too!					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:19 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Whyomar</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Weird situation in Belgrade</title>
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						Antonio Banderas sings?<br />
Someone actually plays that?<br />
Someone sang it aloud?<br />
Why?					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:03:19 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Igor_Jaramaz</dc:creator>
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						it depends on what was your choice of drink. Some induce fluent Serbian, some fluent Italian … whichever you chose, at the end you end up speaking Russian.<br />
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Dipende da che cosa era la vostra scelta della bevanda. Alcuni inducono Serbo fluente, un certo Italiano fluente... quale avete scelto, all'estremità che vi concludete su Russo parlante (by Babel Fish).					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:37:54 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>jinks</dc:creator>
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				<title>Weird situation in Belgrade</title>
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						One of the most weird situation I experienced in Belgrade was an evening in one downtown cafe. Me and my friends gathered there without any particular reason and in one moment it became apparent that everyone in the cafe (excluding us) speaks Spanish. It revealed later that there was some conference of air controllers in Serbia, so the evening before all guests from Spain decided to spend a night in the town and to gather in the only cafe with Spanish name. Spanish air controllers seem to be very friendly folks, so they started communication with everyone around quite easily. As a result, entire population of the overcrowded cafe now spoke English. Because it was impossible to say who is Spanish and who is Serbian (both nations have the exactly the same terrible English pronunciation), even Serbs started to speak English among themselves.<br />
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We took one smaller group to the discotheque later. In one moment it was that famous Antonio Banderas' song playing. One of our Spanish guests sang the whole song, just to be friendly slapped on the shoulder by one unsuspecting Serb that was passing by in that moment: &quot;Bravo, care, znaš sve reči.&quot;					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:26:21 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>wk</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Обрано млеко</title>
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						Shameless advertising or not, thanks for the help. I will check it out. 					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:37:57 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Nicholas Comrie</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Nicholas,</title>
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						Now that really would be asking too much. Perhaps after a few beers...<br />
Although I never can find my way to a computer terminal or have the will to write by that stage.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:36:40 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Nicholas Comrie</dc:creator>
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				<title>Обрано млеко</title>
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						At the expense of sounding like a smartass that failed to catch the gist of your message (and irrelevant illustration or yet other form of literary enrichment) skimmed milk is обрано млеко (obrano mleko), partly skimmed (делимично обрано/delimično obrano) but that must be 2,8% I guess in this yet to become lipidophobic country of ours... <br />
<br />
Another useful tool is http://www.slavicnet.com. Despite it allowing you a quota of only 50 translations per day, it is quite excellent actually, for translator or common speaker alike.<br />
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Enough shameless commercial advertising for me...					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:01:59 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Igor_Jaramaz</dc:creator>
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				<title>the quotation</title>
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						Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.<br />
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Samuel Beckett					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:25:29 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Ivan Čikarić</dc:creator>
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				<title>Nicholas,</title>
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						a zašto ne iskoristiš priliku i na Blogu vježbaš svoj srpski?					]]>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:02:19 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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				<title>thong</title>
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						Don't you like the idea S(h)ar(k)ski? I'll live it as it is. It fits in nicely! 					]]>
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				<dc:creator>Ana WithAFamilyNameTooHardToPron</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: swearing</title>
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						Haaahaaa<br />
<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>your mother thong</blockquote><br />
Your mother wears thong?:))<br />
<img src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/String_Bikini_%28Jassi%29_Rear.jpg/250px-String_Bikini_%28Jassi%29_Rear.jpg' alt='' border='0' /><br />
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You brighten my day, ma favorite doctoress! Really and honestly:)))<br />
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:23:58 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>nsarski</dc:creator>
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						Have you noticed how incredible easy it is to swear in foreign language (if you are not a rough speaker in your mother thong)? This was pointed to me by a frind of mine who is a lecturer at Bocconi, who has no trouble saying <i>kacco</i> (i'm not sure that I have the spelling right), which her Italian husband finds shocking.					]]>
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				<dc:creator>Ana WithAFamilyNameTooHardToPron</dc:creator>
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				<title>Try this one:</title>
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						&quot;If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a damn fool about it.&quot; --  W.C. Fields <br />
Haaahaaaaa, sorry, but this is funny:)<br />
Anyway, what is the explanation for a room full of Serbians speaking Italian? I mean, I've never had that experience for the whole life I've lived in Belgrade. Italian?! What is this - a new trend or something?<br />
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P.S. But, I must admit, I only have the admiration for you guys trying to make sense out of incomprehensible (this is Chekhov, btw.)					]]>
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