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Change the Words | B92 Blog http://blog.b92.net/blog/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Chris Farmer sr http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss rss@b92.net rss@b92.net Blog A-JE! RSS generator v0.3 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:30:08 +0000 http://blog.b92.net/user_stuff/avatars/mali/4/1004.jpg Chris Farmer http://blog.b92.net/ 50 50 Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k446714

dierre

Words, words, words...

Indeed!

CBF
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:46:50 GMT Chris Farmer http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ I knew that you are error prone... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k446655

bauer.

Whom exactly do you have in mind? I hope not Amad and Mladjahni Mr. Jona? You are insulting them if you regard them as Serbs. And you are offending me if you consider them liberal...

You are making it to complicated, again. Yes, I was talking about Mr. Jona, and I didn't call him a Serb, but a Serbian liberal. I don't think that he minds the difference, though. I was just surprised by some of his points of view. However, It is all about the change and the hope... remember

And you are offending me if you consider them liberal...

What makes you a liberal, BTW ? Other than, you are from Chicago, a liberal stronghold now days

…but this much!? Well, I’ll let young Mr Jona to discuss with you your attempt to associate him, staunch and proud Hungarian Catholic with anything Raci or liberal.
I find your question about what makes me a Liberal far more entertaining. What do you know on my positions on any of the liberal issues? On (let’s start with USofA ones) abortion, on social solidarity, on immigration, on religion, on evolution, on progressive taxation, on education, on (to continue with European ones) status of minorities, regulation of the economy, welfare state, on (to continue with the global ones) environment protection, global worming, third world countries…Nothing. You know nothing and you give a dry ….The only thing that you care about is that I (most likely) openly laughed at you or (almost certainly) some of your ‘liberal’ buddies because of your belief that the affinity towards Urban Outfitters and aversion (better, repulsion) towards anybody that does not share your embarrassment with the nation that you belong to (only if you are Serb, of course) makes you the Other and Better. And since I did that, and I did that numerous times, I have to be a conservative nationalist…

Btw, did you know that the Buddha considered both the addiction and repulsion to be the Tanha. The mere mirror images of the very same cause of the Duk(kh?)a…

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:57:07 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k446652

Chris Farmer

Shakespeare

Words, words, words...

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:53:25 GMT dierre http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Well, I sure put a lots of hope in our new http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k446180 Whom exactly do you have in mind? I hope not Amad and Mladjahni Mr. Jona? You are insulting them if you regard them as Serbs. And you are offending me if you consider them liberal...
You are making it to complicated, again. Yes, I was talking about Mr. Jona, and I didn't call him a Serb, but a Serbian liberal. I don't think that he minds the difference, though. I was just surprised by some of his points of view. However, It is all about the change and the hope... remember

And you are offending me if you consider them liberal...

What makes you a liberal, BTW ? Other than, you are from Chicago, a liberal stronghold now days

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:26:41 GMT bauer. http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Well, I sure put a lots of hope in our new http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k446164 I was not talking about my change, but yours
I know. Evidently you were wrong and I corrected you.

I was also surprised to see that (some) Serbian liberals identify themselves with American conservatives.

Whom exactly do you have in mind? I hope not Amad and Mladjahni Mr. Jona? You are insulting them if you regard them as Serbs. And you are offending me if you consider them liberal... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:46:17 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Well, I sure put a lots of hope in our new http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k446153 …but I would not go so far to consider him supernatural.
me neither.

So I would not attribute your change to him.

I was not talking about my change, but yours

Anyway, to cut the long story short, I was also surprised to see that (some) Serbian liberals identify themselves with American conservatives. We learn something new every day. I am only glad that there is one small point, that most of us can agree upon... give man the chance. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:18:23 GMT bauer. http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Well, I sure put a lots of hope in our new http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k445744

bauer.

...some of the more pessimistic among us would say that you are just beyond hope. But I, inspired with President's speech today, refuse to do so. For the time being...

On a nice day like this I didn't want to muse on how it is possible that someone living in USofA with middle name Milutin can be such a xenophobic arse.

Domi, i didn't think I'll live long enough, to stand up for your opinions That's got to be the change everybody is talking about …but I would not go so far to consider him supernatural. So I would not attribute your change to him. With or without Obama, I’m sure that you would not notice this change in you if I was commenting only the guano that our mladjahni hortijevac is leaving behind himself. Not Obama but my particular target brought that change in you. And it is not my fault that you had to wait for so long. I am not responsible for the fact that the klipans are so unevenly distributed here. This actually brings me to a bit tangential line of pondering. Behind such an uneven distribution must be, and this is the law of Nature, some kind of gradient, some direction, some purpose. And I have to wonder what kind of purpose serves this gathering of particular type of klipans at this particular virtual community. More so because it seems that I was wrong when I thought that one of the purposes of this place was actually quite the opposite, when I thought that the purpose of this site was the Deklipanization of Serbia. Any thoughts on that. Or the Change did not progress enough just yet?
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:36:53 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Action matter not words http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k445363 But to say that his words will change something is a bit vague.
For us in Europe, (believe me both west and east) visiting USA always brings bitter feeling of how words means nothing to USA people - from greet in every shop :"How are you doing today?" to amount of imitation of happiness and excitement when one sees you "how awesome". All those words mean little - you know it, we know it. Does this mean if one changes them to something similar that there is an actual change?

I liked when Obama said in his speech yesterday, that he plans to improve science by developing green energy. In western Europe we work on these developments pretty hard. Lets see some actions.

To say everybody loves USA today and hated it yesterday during Bush is simplification also.
Every country has its political geo-strategic interests. The interests don't change - only manners to reach them change. On the other hand manners matter - so it could be that the profile of people liking or hating will change.

And Obama is one man, his cabinet is not full of fresh people. Crisis didn't begin during Bush but before him. He seems didn't do good job fixing it. Obama now has full hands of work to be done. Words won't change anything. Lets see him in action.

Hopefully not another bombing of Serbs as refreshing democrats in action. But taking in account Klinton women, I fear ... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:12:21 GMT brananl http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Now... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k445027 ...some of the more pessimistic among us would say that you are just beyond hope. But I, inspired with President's speech today, refuse to do so. For the time being...

On a nice day like this I didn't want to muse on how it is possible that someone living in USofA with middle name Milutin can be such a xenophobic arse.

Domi, i didn't think I'll live long enough, to stand up for your opinions

That's got to be the change everybody is talking about

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:04:09 GMT bauer. http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ I might... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444678

dusanj92

I didn't notice any question marks!?

As a guy who plays/works with words, you should be able to recognize the word "How" as a beginning of the question....if I were Vietnamese or Iraqi. But I'm not.
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:41:28 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Question? http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444612 I didn't notice any question marks!?

As a guy who plays/works with words, you should be able to recognize the word "How" as a beginning of the question. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:33:36 GMT dusanj92 http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Question? http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444593 That would bring a bit longer text. Also I didn't want to contemplate the fact that sorry nationalistic right wingers like you and mladjahni Mr Jona can't stand Liberals even more than you can't stand each other. That would bring even longer text. And I definitely didn't want to reflect on how the narrow minded, ideologically blinded people constantly misinterpret their narrow-mindedness for sharp sarcasms. That really gets me started, that would be a really long text. But not today... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:05:07 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Now... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444554 you are just beyond hope

This all you have to say on my question on replacing words? And I'm the one beyond the hope ... hmm.. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:25:42 GMT dusanj92 http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Now... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444538

dusanj92

For over one hour I have a new president with the middle name Husein and I still don't feel The Change and The Hope is leaving me. I live in the Midwest town and Central Time Zone there may be some time delay.
...some of the more pessimistic among us would say that you are just beyond hope. But I, inspired with President's speech today, refuse to do so. For the time being...
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:11:17 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444519 because word "French" could be replaced with "USA" and "former colonies" with "Vietnam, Iraq" and we get another true statement which suggests opposite stance from yours.

How about replacing words Vietnam and Iraq with words "colonies South Korea, Japan, West Germany ..."
... and than compare it with words "colonies North Korea, East Germany, Cuba ...."

For over one hour I have a new president with the middle name Husein and I still don't feel The Change and The Hope is leaving me. I live in the Midwest town and Central Time Zone there may be some time delay.

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:44:07 GMT dusanj92 http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Congratulations http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444495 http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:09:22 GMT jednatanja http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ The French hated us from the beginning. http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444492

The French helped us at the beginning.

instead. The text would be even nicer... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:04:34 GMT Domazet http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: yet... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444357 http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:15:15 GMT Sofroniye http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444321 better quality of life
The quality of life that all the people in US have? You have wrong idea what "quality of life" means. That’s why you can compare Norway and US. Your distant idea about what “good life” is simplification of today’s world. US are overspending, nature killing nation that uses one quarter of world resources to provide high "quality of life" for 50-60% of their population.
@Chris
I hope that words are not the only thing that would change.
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:36:30 GMT Blade Runner http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ yet... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444315 ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:33:07 GMT zlatnasredina http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: Enouuuuuughh! http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444288

noboole

Godwin's law someone!!!! Why every blog in past few days has to deteriorate in Nazi/Vietnam/Commies polemics!I hope Obama picks the muck left by predecessors and establish decent relationships even with alien cultures. Some kind of we're partners in common good things, and rivals in, i don't know, cheese industry.

Obama should obstruct the war machine that is the only engine for the sole industry that works regardless of the global economy crisis. Of course, I only have a dream... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:12:51 GMT Jelena Pavlović http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Disagre.... http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444205

As for Obama he is a puppet. The only thing that remains to be seen is which role he is supposed to play.

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:15:35 GMT Sofroniye http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Enouuuuuughh! http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k444165
I hope Obama picks the muck left by predecessors and establish decent relationships even with alien cultures. Some kind of we're partners in common good things, and rivals in, i don't know, cheese industry.
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:54:01 GMT noboole http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443970

Virtuelni Vasilije

Tibor
and whats wrong there?

because word "French" could be replaced with "USA" and "former colonies" with "Vietnam, Iraq" and we get another true statement which suggests opposite stance from yours.

In other words, there is no reason to be grateful to USA more than to France ... nor say one is good and another bad ... world can not/should not be "run" by any particular country/nation ...

vietnam was a former french colony. no need to replace the words.

US ended up there for the same reason it ended up in Europe in 1941. Because France and other european countries were unable to fix their problems. Have the US been as succesfull in Vietnam as they were in Europe im sure Vietnamese people would have a much better quality of life then they have now.

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:30:19 GMT Tibor Jóna http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443920

Tibor

and whats wrong there?

because word "French" could be replaced with "USA" and "former colonies" with "Vietnam, Iraq" and we get another true statement which suggests opposite stance from yours.

In other words, there is no reason to be grateful to USA more than to France ... nor say one is good and another bad ... world can not/should not be "run" by any particular country/nation ...
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:47:06 GMT Virtuelni Vasilije http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443890

Virtuelni Vasilije

we can just imagine the world "run" by the likes of French... we`ve seen the mess, blood and poverty they have left in their former colonies. - t. jóna

and whats wrong there? ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:17:11 GMT Tibor Jóna http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443883 ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:08:00 GMT Virtuelni Vasilije http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443875

Virtuelni Vasilije

for example - all of us really gratefull to US for the fact we are now free people and not Nazi halfslaves or Communist grunts.

grateful to US ... and hateful to France/French?

???
dont mix grandmothers and frogs - v.draskovic
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:03:43 GMT Tibor Jóna http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443853 for example - all of us really gratefull to US for the fact we are now free people and not Nazi halfslaves or Communist grunts.

grateful to US ... and hateful to France/French?
]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:45:54 GMT Virtuelni Vasilije http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443840

Virtuelni Vasilije

Tibor Jóna

we the people.
biensure!

you mean: "we the SKOJ-people"?

for example - all of us really gratefull to US for the fact we are now free people and not Nazi halfslaves or Communist grunts. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:37:59 GMT Tibor Jóna http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443838

Tibor Jóna

we the people.
biensure!

you mean: "we the SKOJ-people"?

]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:35:25 GMT Virtuelni Vasilije http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443835

Virtuelni Vasilije

Tibor Jóna
and to be speculative - we can just imagine the world "run" by the likes of French. But then, maybe we dont have to - we`ve seen the mess, blood and poverty they have left in their former colonies.

Who are those "we"? Do you ("we" ) prefer order, freedom, richness ... left in Vietnam and Iraq?

we the people.
biensure! ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:27:11 GMT Tibor Jóna http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443832

Tibor Jóna

and to be speculative - we can just imagine the world "run" by the likes of French. But then, maybe we dont have to - we`ve seen the mess, blood and poverty they have left in their former colonies.

Who are those "we"? Do you ("we" ) prefer order, freedom, richness ... left in Vietnam and Iraq?

@Chris: very nice text ... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:20:54 GMT Virtuelni Vasilije http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Words http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443829
Nadam se da ćete održati... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:18:01 GMT Milutin Milošević http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/ Re: hate http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#k443827 - Shakespeare

Hate is another powerful word; quite resistent to change. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/#komentari Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:17:26 GMT Chris Farmer http://blog.b92.net/text/6915/Change%20the%20Words/