You never take the breath until it´s over (Woody Allen) | B92 Blog http://blog.b92.net/blog/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ dunjica sr http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss rss@b92.net rss@b92.net Blog A-JE! RSS generator v0.3 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:01:51 +0000 http://blog.b92.net/user_stuff/avatars/mali/170/1170.jpg dunjica http://blog.b92.net/ 50 50 ola, čubaka...;)) http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k577753
George Carlin On Death And Dying

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Not only is there no God, but try getting a plumber on weekends. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Mon, 25 May 2009 20:30:41 GMT Goran Vučković http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Re: Duende: Eugene Hütz on Death and Gypsi Mus http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k577664 ovdje sam.

Danke Deutschland! ;-) ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Mon, 25 May 2009 19:24:47 GMT dunjica http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Duende: Eugene Hütz on Death and Gypsi Mus http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k577650 Eugene Hütz was asked what would be typical for Roma Music all over the world. His answer: It's the same you find in spanish folklore music
and what has benn described by Federico García Lorca as Duende a certain evil character of music, the firocity, the intense emotions and:



"I think it comes from chronic awareness of death and mortality, the fight between you and mortality."


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Urban Word of the Day

farting gift
The act of someone farting immediately before leaving a room; leaving that special something to be remembered by.

Person 1: That party was the worst.
Person 2: Don't worry, I made sure to thank them with a farting gift. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Mon, 25 May 2009 12:40:25 GMT Filip2412 http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Wait a moment! http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k577262 box of chocolates,

you never know what you´re gonna get. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Mon, 25 May 2009 10:37:46 GMT dunjica http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Wait a moment! http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k577220 -- Život je tako kratak (Vita brevis) da nemamo prava da izreknemo osudjujuću presudu ljubavi. Moramo prvo živeti, Aurelije, onda možemo filozofirati. (Primus esse, tum philosophari). J. Gorder




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Ovako nešto?


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2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,

3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,

4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,

5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,

6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,

7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,

ff

(Ecclesiastes 3:1-7) ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sun, 24 May 2009 20:09:36 GMT dunjica http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ You play chess, don´t you? http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576828 http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sun, 24 May 2009 19:48:41 GMT rabadabdab2 http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ You have come to me? http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576827
Lehre uns bedenken, dass wir sterben müssen, auf dass wir klug werden.

Psalm 90
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Mislim da je nema u dostupnom cyberspaceu, ali evo malo Harryja na temu:


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dunjica

Moj dobar prijatelj ima običaj reći: Nemoj brigovati svoj život, živi ga!



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U to ime:



Jednostavno ne mogu odoljeti u ovaj sitni sat... A Tomicu ostavljam za neko vrijeme kada Martha stigne na Youtube.
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Moj dobar prijatelj ima običaj reći: Nemoj brigovati svoj život, živi ga!
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Premalo znam o rezultatima interferencija kršćanstva i npr. prirodnih ili šamanističkih religija na udaljenim geografskim širinama, ali mi se nekako čini vjerojatnim da Meksikanci nisu usamljeni u svojoj "drugačijosti". Ako netko od blogera zna više, molim da nam se javi!

U ovim meksičkim ritualima ja osobno prepoznajem veliki utjecaj ideje karnevala u katoličkoj Crkvi, ideju carpe diem prije početka Velikog posta, "neobuzdanost" prije no što se okrenemo okajavanju grijeha i mislima o vlastitoj smrtnosti. Samo što u ovom meksičkom slučaju ta cijela priča gubi linearnost razvoja "radnje" i slavi paralelitet.


- univerzalije su među ljudima mnogo sličnije (i lakše se propoznaju, do identifikacije) kada treba prikazati rituale ljubavi, herojstva ili slobode, ali se poprilično i nepomirljivo razlikuju za rituale - smrti.


Prije dosta godina, na jednom internacionalnom skupu mirovnih aktivista, dogodilo se istovremeno nekoliko sukoba, u svakom od njih na liniji Sjever - Jug (ekonomsko-političkim rječnikom govoreći). Voditelji ovog skupa su odlučili da sve učesnike skupa podijele po grupama od po 5, a grupe nazvali (po meni, u datim okolnostima baš bedasto) - Affinity Groups. AG su imale zadatak da se svako veče po završetku programa sastanu i reflektiraju događaje prethodnog dana. To je trebao biti lijek za problem koji se pojavio, zaključujem.

U mojoj grupi se nađosmo: 1 mlada Amerikanka (USA), 1 stariji muškarac iz Nigerije, 1 mladi Zambijac, 1 mlada žena iz Ekvadora i ja. Dvoje od njih su bili protagonisti jednog od konflikata koji su bili povod za cijelu conflict management akciju s Affinity Groups.

Spontano počesmo razgovarati o običajima za sahrane, kasnije i vjenčanja, u sredinama iz kojih dolazimo. Za mene je to bilo jedno dragocjeno iskustvo o Drugima i, baš to što kažeš, da se rituali vezani za smrt (nepomirljivo) različiti, dok su opisani rituali vjenčanja manje-više bili "na isti kalup".

I da li još trebam dodati da se jedino naša grupa debelo "okoristila" idejom affinity grupa, dok su se ostali vrtili u krugu intelektualnih analiza konflikata?
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Ugodno je čuti to što kažeš, čak i da nije tako

Doduše, meni je poslije ove Wilsonove rečenice zazvonilo zvonce "aha, deutsche Gründlichkeit", koje ponekad doista ima itekakvog smisla.


U tom smislu podsjećanje na najpoznatijeg Mefistofelesa u povijesti Fausta, Gustav Gründgens:

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Imaju sve kulture neki oblik rituala danse macabre, ali skoro svi liče jedni na druge, samo su meksički rituali potpuno različiti, to sam htela da kažem...
Različite kulture pronađoše svoj autentični način sjećanja na mrtve. Na žalost, budućnost nam obećaje još samo Halloween. Globalizacija, to ti je.

Nisam baš sigurna u to, čak bih se kladila - suprotno. Neke (mahom najvažnije) rituale globalizacija nije ni taknula, niti će, tako ja mislim.

Čini mi se da ponekad mešamo univerzalije komercijalnog plakata sa neposrednim uticajem globalizacije na kulturu i rituale koje ljudi neke kulture prepoznaju kao identitet.
Recimo (i najbanalnije, verovatno) plakat za "coca-cola enjoy the life&ride" prodaju biće nepogrešivo prepoznat (i usvojen) globalizacijom - svugde, od Tibeta i Anda, preko Kilimandžara i Sibira do Arktika i Antraktika, ali to je - sve. Komercijalni plakat (taj i drugi slični njemu) nosi u sebi poruku koju svi razumeju (sloboda, radost,..) i, bila ona istinita ili ne, dopire do svih i - prodaje.
Ima još puno primera - arhitektura, auti, mobilni, tehnologije, muzika,....komercijalnim plakatom ili sublimacijom neke osnovne ljudske emocije (sloboda, ljubav, herojstvo, smrt), dopreće do svih i biće - globalna. I - prodavaće neki proizvod kroz ponuđenu ideju ili emociju sa kojom se može identifikovati svako, bez obzira na kulturni kontekst. Ta je prodaja (paradoksalno, ali očigledno istinito) dokaz da su univerzalije (ljudske) - moguće.
Planeta je, našim zajedničkim naporom, više nego ikada ranije postala - globalna "prodavnica čuda".

Ali mislim da ne postoji način da meksički "danse macabre" usvoje kao "i svoj i globalan" ljudi koji odlaze na Mirogoj ili beogradsko Novo groblje. Nema šansi, tako ja mislim.
Ili da globalizacija hinduizmu ili budizmu "približi" ideje pakla kaotakvog.

Kao što "vesternizacija" Južne Amerike i hrišćanstvo nije uspelo da "ukloni" identitet dotadašnje kulturne matrice. Rituali su čudo.I koreni im obično sežu mnogo dublje nego što išta "globalizacijom stvoreno" - može da dopre, sada ili skoro u budućnosti.
I meni je upravo to interesantno:
- univerzalije su među ljudima mnogo sličnije (i lakše se propoznaju, do identifikacije) kada treba prikazati rituale ljubavi, herojstva ili slobode, ali se poprilično i nepomirljivo razlikuju za rituale - smrti.
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dunjica
Meni je veoma zanimljivo Wilsonovo zapažanje o razlikama između njemačkih i USA glumaca u pripremanju za teatarski komad. "Nije mi jasno kako glumci mogu 3 mjeseca čitati literaturu i diskutirati? Mi u Americi uzmemo tekst i uradimo!"
zato je nemacki teatar najjaci na svetu ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sun, 24 May 2009 09:59:03 GMT BebaOdLonchara http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Re: ... http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576486 ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sun, 24 May 2009 09:10:14 GMT dunjica http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Re: danse macabre... http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576481

Zagrebačko groblje Mirogoj





Različite kulture pronađoše svoj autentični način sjećanja na mrtve. Na žalost, budućnost nam obećaje još samo Halloween. Globalizacija, to ti je. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sun, 24 May 2009 09:02:53 GMT dunjica http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Re: ... http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576433 zeza Beba, ubeđivali smo se oko Cohena nomad grdno nešto....
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Ako je Cohen (bio) u pitanju, onda - bravo!
zeza Beba, ubeđivali smo se oko Cohena nomad grdno nešto.... ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sun, 24 May 2009 00:57:26 GMT Filip2412 http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ MAGIX OR NUTTING! http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576369 ps.









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Ako je Cohen (bio) u pitanju, onda - bravo!




P.S. I Tomica i Leonard su mi među najdražima.
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ps. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sat, 23 May 2009 20:44:48 GMT BebaOdLonchara http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ ... http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576107 nisam znao za tu predtavu, operu, operetu ... ja & toma vejts se znamo odavno ali sam relativno od skora počeo da slušam njegovu muziku ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sat, 23 May 2009 18:07:29 GMT Filip2412 http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Re: ... http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k576074
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Šta ti je kad osoba od struke da prikaz! Thx, BoL!

Mislim da bi uz malo googlanja mogla naći neki clip, jesi li pokušala? A evo kako ta scena izgleda kod Herzoga s Kinski-Woyzeckom:

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dunjica
Ni kazališni kritičari ovdje nisu jedinstveni oko toga je li opera ili ne, ali Tom je svoj glazbeni predložak nazvao operom, pa sam ja preuzela.

Vojčeka sam u klasičnoj postavci prije 20 i koju godinu gledala u izvođenju jedne beogradske teatarske grupe u Osijeku, ali se više ne sjećam tko je bio u pitanju. Ako se dobro sjećam, Branimir Brstina je igrao naslovnu ulogu.
ovaj vojcek je genijalan, wilsonov. malo troll, gledala sam i njegovu reziju Wagnerovog Parsifala koja je, kakopbihtorekla, re-postavka iz njujorskog metropolitena, ako se ne varam. mada, ume vilson da bude i dosadan...ponese ga manir. to su one rezije koje otplacuju dugove, hehe

elem, zaista fenomelalno u tom wilsonovom vojceku je live band toma waitsa ispod scene, u 'operskoj rupi', gde inace sedi operski orkestar (feat. jos neki muzicari koje inace ne koristi) i taj sync sa scenom, sync za kojim pati vecna operskih kuca...u ovom vojceku sve igraju i pevaju glumci, a u klasicnoj operi to rade operski pevaci (koji jako retko umeju da glume...).

jedna od najuzbudljivijih scena je kada vojcek ubija mari. to je ona fotka koju sam postavila gore. onaj mesec/sunce (onaj taman polukrug iza vojceka, na platnu) se spusta, smanjuje svetlost i u isto vreme fokus svetlo na mari, se takodje smanjuje, sve dok se ne zaustavi na njenoj glavi sa vojcekovom sakom sa nozem u ruci. mari u tipicnom wilsonovskom grcu, kakvu je vidimo na slici, vojcek takodje, a violina u visokom registru svira tihi tremolo ali koliko se secam, sul Ponticello, i u momentu kada vojcek samo pokretom sake lagano proseta noz sa jedne na drugu stranu marinog vrata, imamo tu istu violinu u majusnom glisandu navise...


ponovo bih pogledala. mislim da postoji snimak, ima ga jedan moj kolega ali ga nikada nisam uzela, alimislim da moze da se kupi.
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Vojčeka sam u klasičnoj postavci prije 20 i koju godinu gledala u izvođenju jedne beogradske teatarske grupe u Osijeku, ali se više ne sjećam tko je bio u pitanju. Ako se dobro sjećam, Branimir Brstina je igrao naslovnu ulogu. ]]> http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sat, 23 May 2009 12:27:46 GMT dunjica http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/ Re: ... http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#k575854 http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/#komentari Sat, 23 May 2009 12:10:54 GMT BebaOdLonchara http://blog.b92.net/text/9917/You%20never%20take%20the%20breath%20until%20it%C2%B4s%20over%20%28Woody%20Allen%29/