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				<title>Re: Rehab</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>Zapadni kazneni sistem i rehabilitacija su najcesce neuspesni jer ne resavaju problem u korenu, vec njegove simptome.</blockquote><br />
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Prekidanje spirale nasilja je odavno prepoznato i prihvaćeno kao najefikasnija metoda u borbi protiv već postojećeg nasilja. Otuda i rastući značaj nenasilnih metoda razrade konflikata, civilno, ali u naznakama i na visokim političkim i vojnim nivoima. Samo, o tome se ne piše, jer <i>good news</i> obično nisu za medije dovoljno sexy.<br />
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Restorative Justice je upravo jedan ilustrativan primjer prekidanja spirale nasilja i uspostavljanja temelja za izgradnju mira.<br />
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Rješavanje problema u korijenu je pitanje preventivnog rada, koji isto tako kao i nenasilne metode rješavanja sukoba, nije atraktivan, jer ne podrazumjeva spektakularne akcije kojima se izaziva pažnja javnosti. Zato ima slabu podršku, posebno financijsku, pa ovisi više-manje o ljudima altruističkih pobuda.					]]>
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				<title>Re: a doctrinal question</title>
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Znaš li da se i <i>Leibach</i> bavio istom temom, na svoj način?<br />
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Možda si primjetio, ali mi je lakše u tekstovima se baviti temama prema kojima imam afirmativan, ili barem neutralan stav. Opus Dei ne spada pod te kvalifikacije. <br />
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Općenito, djelovanje Opus Dei je prilično obavijeno velom tajni, pa otuda i mnogo mistifikacija s jedne strane, a s druge podcjenjivanje njihovog velikog političkog i ekonomskog utjecaja globalno, posebno Latinska Amerika i dijelovi Evrope i Afrike. Prošli papa Ivan Pavao II je često bio kritikovan zbog otvorene podrške i dozvoljavanja utjecaja istih unutar katoličke crkve. Mnogi kardinali npr., većina koje je on imenovao, su članovi Opus Dei.<br />
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Ne smijem zaboraviti napomenuti da najveća kritika prema Opus Dei dolazi upravo iz redova same katoličke Crkve, posebno onih snaga i osoba koji ulogu Crkve prvenstveno vide u brizi za siromašne, potlačene i naučavanju srži Isusovog učenja (<a href='http://home.swbell.net/revscat/sermonOnTheMount.html' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Propovijed na gori</a>). Posebno tu želim spomenuti one koji zastupaju već pomenutu <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>teologiju oslobođenja</a>, ali i različite grass-root inicijative.<br />
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Mnogi misle ovako:<br />
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:26:44 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: a doctrinal question</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>dunjica</b></div>iskreno, pojma nemam. Čujem samo šuškanje, ali se ne bavim time. Znam nešto malo o Opus dei u Njem. Bivši poslodavac, zapravo njegova žena, bila ugledan član te organizacije, svako malo kod pape u audijenciji, ups. Pape Wojtile, Bog da mu dušu prosti.<br />
<b>&quot;pacifistichkim duhom socijademokratske ateistichne hrvatske&quot;</b> Hahahaha, pacifistički duh socijal-demokratske Hr... E, prećera ga, jarane... pacifistički duh se švrćka po hr NGO sceni, a soc-dem su uglavnom u raspoloženju &quot;da l da piškim il da kakim?&quot;. Kužiš? ;-) </blockquote><br />
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ngo then, cool. i had that on my mind, rather than mainstream socialists.<br />
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tough &amp; clandestine group that opus dei, ha?					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:59:06 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>da pripremish neku reportazhu o delatnosti Opus dei-ja u CRO</blockquote><br />
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O sceni u Hr, iskreno, pojma nemam. Čujem samo šuškanje, ali se ne bavim time. Znam nešto malo o Opus dei u Njem. Bivši poslodavac, zapravo njegova žena, bila ugledan član te organizacije, svako malo kod pape u audijenciji, ups. Pape Wojtile, Bog da mu dušu prosti.<br />
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<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>pacifistichkim duhom socijademokratske ateistichne hrvatske</blockquote><br />
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Hahahaha, pacifistički duh socijal-demokratske Hr... E, prećera ga, jarane... pacifistički duh se švrćka po hr NGO sceni, a soc-dem su uglavnom u raspoloženju &quot;da l da piškim il da kakim?&quot;. Kužiš?  ;-) 					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:24:37 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>dunjica</b></div>.Ako usporedimo ono što je preovlađujuća praksa katoličke Crkve u Hrvata s teologijom oslobođenja, posebno raširenoj u Latinskoj Americi, pa zatim Opus dei, koja je još desnije od svega o čemu smo do sada razgovarali, onda je teško povjerovati da se radi o istoj Crkvi.</blockquote><br />
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hm. bilo bi dobro ako mozhesh da pripremish neku reportazhu o delatnosti Opus dei-ja u CRO. koliko su snazhni, ima li javnih lichnosti u spoju sa njima? meni bi lichno bilo veoma krivo ukoliko oni odnesu prevagu nad pacifizmom liberation theology predstavnika, ili uopshte nad pacifistichkim duhom socijademokratske ateistichne hrvatske.<br />
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:12:00 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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				<title>Rehab</title>
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						To se kod nas zove &quot;rehabilitacija&quot; kaznjenika i reintegracija u drustvo.<br />
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Zapadni kazneni sistem i rehabilitacija su najcesce neuspesni jer ne resavaju problem u korenu, vec njegove simptome. Ovakav pristup je socijalni aspirin. Socijalni hirurski noz se granici s nemogucim.<br />
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Za pocetak, trebalo bi kontrolisati ko ostavlja potomstvo (socijalni aspekt podizanja/vaspitavanja dece, uticaj drustva na porodicu i decu itd.). Interakcija porodice i drustva je suvise komplikovana formula i preveliki zalogaj za sve osim male, izolovane enklave sa fundamentalno drugacijima vrednostima, kao stu su Amishi.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:13:21 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>ugly</dc:creator>
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						Dunjice, dusice... Unabomber i Amishi ocigledno imaju radikalno drugacije metode odnosa prema stvarnosti. Razlog za gornji naslov je ono sto oba entiteta imaju zajednicko - odbacivanje (naprednog) tehnoloskog aspekta savremene civilizacije.<br />
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Dakle, blizi mi je Ted Turner nego Ted Kaczynski, cak i ako su obojica u krivu (Hr. ant. od &quot;u pravu&quot<img src='/gfx/emoticons/wink.gif' alt='' />.<br />
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Od Amisha bih verovatno rado uzeo paradajz.					]]>
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				<dc:creator>ugly</dc:creator>
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						jer različite perspektive navode na razmišljanje<br />
(recimo ovo:)<br />
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i preispitivanje gde smo,  da li smo nešto uradili i ukoliko jesmo u kojoj meri smo uspeli...<br />
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:04:14 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>snezana mihajlovic</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: The Unabomber was Amish</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>The Unabomber was Amish</blockquote><br />
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Ne vidim vezu između T.Kaczynskog i ideje radikalnog nenasilja Amisha (&quot;radikalno&quot; u kontekstu nenasilja nije najspretniji izraz, pošto se obično koristi u suprotnom kontekstu). Može li pojašnjenje, Ugly?<br />
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Inače smatram osobno važnim još jednom naglasiti, da <blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>za sopstvene izbore smo odogovorni sami.</blockquote> i da trebamo stojati iza toga.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:48:19 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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						Vidi se da autor clanka nije odrastao u ranoj SFRJ koja se do ranih 60-tih nije mnogo razlikovala od onoga kako zive Amishi - niks TV, niks frizideri, niks masine za pranje vesa i sudova, a i automobili su bili mnogo retke zverke. Pa, ni struje i vode nije bas uvek bilo onako kako bi voleli...<br />
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Zivot Amisha je mozda zanimljiva filosofska vezba onima koji osecaju suvise veliki teret zapadne civilizacije, ali je sumanuto ozbiljno shvatiti bilo koje njihove postavke u svetlu cinjenica naucne revolucije XIX i XX veka. Pocni od antibiotika, pa dalje...<br />
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Kakav god zivot ziveli mi u zapadnoj civilizaciji, jedno je izvesno - za sopstvene izbore smo odogovorni sami. To ukljucuje odnos prema porodici i prijateljima, poslu, potrosackom mentalitetu. Nezadovoljstvo zivotom u zapadnom svetu je najcesce rezultat diskrepancije izmedju (nerealnih) potreba i realnih mogucnosti. Dakle, budi zadovoljan sopstvenim izborima, pa neces morati da trazis simboliku slobode u zivotnom stilu Amisha.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:38:03 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>ugly</dc:creator>
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						Da, moguće je naći širok dijapazon praktika unutar jedne denominacije. Ja osobno sam upoznala veoma različite Menonite, od onih koji gotovo sasvim nalikuju Amishima (Old Order Mennonites) do onih koji su izrazito suvremeni, svjesni zahtijeva vremena i u skladu s time i žive. Isto vrijedi i za pripadnike svake druge denominacije. <br />
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Moj omiljen primjer velikih varijacija unutar jedne denominacije uzimam iz primjera katoličke Crkve. Ako usporedimo ono što je preovlađujuća praksa katoličke Crkve u Hrvata s  <i><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>teologijom oslobođenja</a></i>, posebno raširenoj u Latinskoj Americi, pa zatim <i><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Opus dei</a></i>, koja je još desnije od svega o čemu smo do sada razgovarali, onda je teško povjerovati da se radi o istoj Crkvi. I to Crkvi koja je - za razliku od većine protestanstskih denominacija - strogo centralizirana, s jasnom hijerarhijom i jedinstvenim teološkim naučavanjem. <br />
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Znači, vraćamo se na ono čime smo započeli ovaj naš mali dijalog: OPREZ, a u tom smislu INFORMIRANOST.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 07:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Srđan Fuchs</title>
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						e nemam pojma od koje su sorte bili, ali su bili prilichno puritanski odeveni i svi mushkarci su izgledali kao da su iz benda ZZ Top...<br />
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malo shale nece nashkoditi u ovo gluvo doba...<br />
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				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: a doctrinal question</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>dunjica</b></div>Baptist denominations do not exist in our common Balcan areas, you just need to search and probably you'll find some of them in Sarajevo praying as well.Since ca. 1840 more precisely, when the first Baptist congregation in the Balkans was established - in Sarajevo! Around 1880 in Belgrade and in 1870´s in Zagreb. All of them were mainly established by the members of local German, but also Cro/Serb communities.</blockquote><br />
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well, i have found this manifesto on the <a href='http://www.bethelks.edu/mennonitelife/2000sept/snyder_manifesto.html' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Mennonite Life</a>,<br />
and herein i must admit that i see no major distinction in between Mennonitism and <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Pentecostalism</a>, recpectively.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:58:44 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Manjina Mania</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>Louise Cypher</b></div>Ne razumem te kazezoze. Prvo citiras iz weba da se dunjica bavi nenasiljem i promocijom gradjanskog mira, onda zakljuchujes da preobracuje Muslimane na Hriscanstvo. Kako si dosao do toga?Ako se dobro secam, ti si se pre zalagao za prava homoseksualaca, Roma, hipi zvaka, a sada te Amishi ugrozhavaju?</blockquote><br />
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zato shto je pogreshno povezao Rendijevu org sa evangelistima, let me remind you, Luci, <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>jesus camp</a>. evangelisti, naime, zaista vrshljaju svetom i konvertuju ljude u bible orthodoxy. naprimer, u region pogodjen cunamijem su nosili mleko, pshenicu i pirinach, ali i bible ministers &amp; teachers sa ulogom da zhrtvama katastrofe pomognu  da nadju novi oslonac u zhivotu - u biblijskoj veri.<br />
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evangelisti u israelu, gde ja zhivim, pomazhu sa relief organizacijama arapima i jevrejima, ali usput vrbuju i pravoslavne ili muslimanske arape  i jevreje u ortodoksni evangelizam. tako jedna jevrejska porodica sa chijom decom se druzhim imaju klinca, starosne dobi novaka djokovica i ane ivanovic, koji je imao problema sa drogom. evangelisti su mu pomogli da taj problem prevazidje, ali je on zauzvrat ostao chlan kongregacije. tako sada posti i obraca svoje ukucane sa <i>djavoljih puteva</i> u pobozhnu egzistenciju, i poshto ga roditelji i braca kuliraju, on ih ne smatra vishe za porodicu nego mu je kongregacija nova porodica. roditelji su inache istorichar umetnosti i profesorka knjizhevnosti po vokaciji, a starija braca akademski obrazovana takodje, izuzetno slobodoumni ljudi, i svi su ochajni jer je mladic tako zastranio.<br />
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drzhava israel se bori na svoj nachin protiv misionarenja, od deportacije prestupnika zakona (zabranjeno misionariti osobama mladjim od 18, i uopshte zabranjeno misionariti na javnim mestima), do zabrane ulaska ili otezhavanja duzheg boravka u zemlji pripadnicima evangelistichkih organizacija.<br />
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dakle, Kazeova strepnja nije nimalo <i>out of the clear blue skies</i>.<br />
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no, naravno, vi kazhete da su anabaptisti miroljubivi i nemisionarski raspolozheni, tako da nema razloga za brigu. <img src='/gfx/emoticons/wink.gif' alt='' />					]]>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:40:35 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Manjina Mania</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>Baptist denominations do not exist in our common Balcan areas, you just need to search and probably you'll find some of them in Sarajevo praying as well.</blockquote><br />
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Since ca. 1840 more precisely, when the first Baptist congregation in the Balkans was established - in Sarajevo! Around 1880 in Belgrade and in 1870´s in Zagreb. All of them were mainly established by the members of local German, but also Cro/Serb communities.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:06:51 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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						Srđane, anabaptisti NIJE ISTO što i baptisti. Sasvim općenito gledano, baptisti se mogu promatrati kao izdanak anabaptista, jer prakticiraju krštenje odraslih, znači - po vlastitoj odluci i izboru; a krštenje novorođenčadi ne priznaju, jer nije izabrano slobodnom voljom. U tome se pozivaju na tradiciju prvih kršćana.<br />
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I jedni i drugi se naučavaju u tradiciji Lutherove reformacije <i>sola scriptura, sola fide, sola gratia i solus Christus</i> - <i>samo Pismo</i> (misli se na Bibliju, a svi ostali crkveni spisi imaju samo značaj apokrifa, znači bez značaja za crkveno učenje), <i>samo vjera </i>(vjera je dovoljna), <i>samo milost</i> (po milosti smo spašeni), <i>samo Hrist </i>(Isus je jedini posrednik između Boga i ljudi, a ne i sveci, Marija, itd.). Znači, &quot;ogledalo mučenika&quot; je iz neke druge priče.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:55:55 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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						Karl May strikes again!<br />
Svaka cast, dunjice!					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:43:58 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>nsarski</dc:creator>
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						&quot;...but their father, firmly believing in the doctrine of nonresistance and remaining faithful in his hour of sorest trial, could not give his consent for defense. In vain his family begged him but he continued to tell them it was not right to take the life of another even to save one's own life. ...&quot;<br />
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Cijeli tekst:<br />
<a href='http://www.hostetler.net/massacre.htm' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>HOCHSTETLER MASSACRE</a><br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:37:55 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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						Jedan od najpoznatijih Amisha je Jacob Hochstetler, i ona zena koju sam u gornjem postu pomenuo je is te loze. Koliko su Amishi nasilni se moze zakljuciti i po ovome.<br />
 Kada je, u jednom trentuku, selo Amisha bilo napadnuto od strane Indijanaca, sinovi pomenutog Jackoba su pruzili otpor uzvracajuci vatru. Jacob je uzeo lovacku pusku i pucao na svoje sinove kako bi ih sprecio da ucestvuju u oruzanom obracunu.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:40:04 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>nsarski</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Manjina Mania</title>
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						Ne razumem te kazezoze. Prvo citiras iz weba da se dunjica bavi nenasiljem i promocijom gradjanskog mira, onda zakljuchujes da preobracuje Muslimane na Hriscanstvo. Kako si dosao do toga?<br />
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Ako se dobro secam, ti si se pre zalagao za prava homoseksualaca, Roma, hipi zvaka, a sada te Amishi ugrozhavaju?					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:47:40 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Lucifer</dc:creator>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'>ja sam samo postavio jedno logichno pitanje:&quot;Shta vi radite u Bosni&quot;?</blockquote><br />
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That's a fair question, there's really no reason not to identify myself.  My name is Randy Puljek-Shank and I work for <a href='http://www.mcc.org' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Mennonite Central Committee</a> which is a relief and development agency for Mennonite and other Anabaptist churches including some Amish from the US and Canada.  As an organization that exists for over 80 years I think that our work and perspective on those of other faiths is clear.  Just to mention two examples in Bosnia we cooperate with <a href='http://www.merhamet.ba/' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Merhamet </a> and the Franciscan (Roman Catholic) organization the <a href='http://www.kruhsvante.org/en/index.html' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Bread of St. Anthony</a>.  We also have partner organizations in Serbia.<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:19:42 GMT</pubDate>
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						Ni ja religije ne razlikujem bas najbolje po njihovom sadrzaju. Preciznije ih razlikujem po agresivnosti, a najagresivnija od svih je <a href='http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0805079831' target='_blank' class='crvenoNormal'>Disaster Capitalism</a>					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:45:57 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>nsarski</dc:creator>
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						Kazezoze, pun si mržnje. Nije dobro za zdravlje. I izvodiš pogrešne zaključke.<br />
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Što da lažem, pa znam šta stoji u internetu o meni. Da sam se htjela kriti, i igrati povjerenjem ljudi, onda bih se lijepo i dalje družila zaklonjena nickom i smišljala priče o svom identitetu. Vidim, transparentnost nije uvijek dobrodošla, muljaža se nekada daleko više isplati. Ali, ti polupao lončiće, jojojojoj.					]]>
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				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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						Kaze, majstore, koji ti je k.?<br />
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Ljudi su baptisti, pa šta? <br />
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Randy radi u Sarajevu, a baptista po ubeđenju - opasna stvar! <br />
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Poreklom iz kraja gde ima Amiša, priča o njima kao srodnoj religijskoj grupaciji, nigde ni ne kaže da je Amiš, nego samo da je živeo blizu njih.<br />
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Pretpostavljam da ga Duška zna zbog posla - a i ako je preko crkve - pa šta?<br />
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Čovek bio fini da napiše ponešto o Amišima, nsarski i bravar(ica) dopunili, kad od jednom - drvlje i kamenje. Fobija od baptista koji hoće da naprave od Bosne baptističku državu, pa makar kol'ko tepsija, ili šta?<br />
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Ne razumem otkud ovolika drama... 					]]>
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				<dc:creator>vucko</dc:creator>
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						ja sam samo postavio jedno logichno pitanje:<b>&quot;Shta vi radite u Bosni&quot;?</b><br />
a kao odgovor sam dobio gomilu lazhi, te nismo mi ovo, nismo mi ono, te nismo mi misionari, te mi ne utichemo na ljudska religiozna ubedjenja....<br />
e poshto sam ja vrlo skeptichan kad se radi o raznoraznim evangelistichnim metodama, da shalju svoje ljude samo na podruchja koje su zahvacena ratnim uzhasim (iskljuchivo posle rata) i pod plashtom mirovnih organizacija ljude pokushavaju da &quot;preusmere na boga&quot;, da muslimane preobrate na krishcanstvo i slichne gluposti, doshao sam do zakljuchka da vi niste nikakav amish, kako se predstavljate nego chlan baptistichke crkve, kao uostalom i Dushka Borovac - Knabe za koju na internetu pishe:<br />
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DUSKA BOROVAC-KNABE radi kao instruktor za delo nenasilja. Ukljucena je u seminare koji su utemeljeni za razvitak radnika i osoba povezanih u sluzbu gradjanskog mira na Balkanu. Radila je sa “Deutsches Mennonitisches Friedenskomitee”(Nemacki Mennonite Mirovni Komitet), “Balkan Peace Team”, “Arbeitsgemeinschaft for Entwicklungshilfe” (Udruzenje za organizovanu pomoc); Pax Christi –German Section” (Pax Hriscansko Nemacka Grupa) u Zenici – Bosna i Hercegovina; i “Forum Ziviler Friedensdienst”(Gradjanski Mirovni Forum). Duska je Baptista sa ehumanskom familijom, svojim ubedjenjem i u praksi.<br />
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Dosta lazhi vishe Dunjice!<br />
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ps.ovo je kopirano u sluchaju brisanja<br />
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pozz od nevernika<br />
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:42:43 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Kazezoze</dc:creator>
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						pardon, moja greska...<br />
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mada kao sto rekoh meni sve to dodje isto...mormon, katolik, islamista, amish, pravoslavac...sve veruju u nesto sto ne postoji...<br />
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Richard Dawkins					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:29:47 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Pulse</dc:creator>
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						U pitanju su Mormoni, ne Amishi.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:06:39 GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>amish ili neka druga religija</title>
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						sto se mene tice oni su mi freaks koliko i svi drugi zaludjenici koji veruju u boga i restriktuju svoj zivot u bilo kom smislu iz ovog razloga....<br />
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jel bejase skoro osudili jednog Amish u Americi posto se ozenio sa svojom rodjakom koja je imala 14 godina a on 30 i kusur? : /<br />
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live and let live? ????????					]]>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:53:18 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Pulse</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Srđan Fuchs</title>
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						Srđane, govoriš o anabaptistima, na koje misliš? <br />
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Naziv &quot;anabaptisti&quot; (što znači <i>nanovo kršteni</i>) se uobičajeno koristi za radikalne kršćane iz vremena početaka Reformacije, u XVI stoljeću. Danas se ima običaj govoriti o denominacijama anabaptističke tradicije, što uključuje amiše, menonite, Brethren, huterite.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:04:14 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Srđan Fuchs</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>dunjica</b></div>Srđane, nisam se možda precizno izrazila, ali nisam mislila na tebe za insinuacije. Sorry za nesporazum.Što se tiče opreza, ja sam za oprez uvijek, pa i tamo gdje mislimo da smo na sigurnom terenu, gdje mislimo da poznajemo stvar. Sa &quot;svojim&quot;, da tako kažem.Nekako se ne mogu oteti utisku da su ljudi, gdje god, uvijek naročito oprezni prema manjinama (primjer: Romi, ta omiljena ciljna grupa za primjere diskriminacije i rasizma, da ne širim s primjerima). Uvijek se oni koji su u manjini moraju dokazivati da su OK i biti bolji od prosjeka da bi bili prihvaćeni, a opet istovremeno moraju računati s diskriminacijom. Ponekad je &quot;oprez&quot; eufemizam za &quot;diskriminaciju&quot;, na žalost.</blockquote><br />
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naravno, uvek prema svojima najveci oprez. <br />
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moj stav je otvorenost prema svim grupama, ali razumna otvorenost, ne kao '<i>ej-hoj brale volemo se mi</i>'', vec kao 'okej si mi, drugachiji smo, volim da shvatim nachin na koji ti razmishljash i zhivish'. ne poznajem lichno amishe, ali sam jednom proveo popodne sa grupom anabaptista koja je, kako su mi opisali, poshla na epohalno putovanje pa su doshli u posetu jerusalimu. nisu mi bili nesimpatichni ali su me podsetili unekoliko na ortodoksne jevreje koji isto tako zhive u mnogim kvartovima grada u nekom svom svetu eskejpa u proshlost.<br />
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za Rome znam da ih ne poshtuju mnogo na nashim prostorima.<br />
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:52:28 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Moram da se ispravim u pisaniju gore</title>
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						Za ta dvozuca jaja mi nije jasno. Ja kod njih godinama kupujem jaja, i mislim da nikad nisam nasao dvozuce. A u mojoj obliznjoj radnji ima da se kupe pakovanja iskljucivo dvozucih jaja.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:52:43 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>nsarski</dc:creator>
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						Srđane, nisam se možda precizno izrazila, ali nisam mislila na tebe za insinuacije. Sorry za nesporazum.<br />
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Što se tiče opreza, ja sam za oprez uvijek, pa i tamo gdje mislimo da smo na sigurnom terenu, gdje mislimo da poznajemo stvar. Sa &quot;svojim&quot;, da tako kažem.<br />
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Nekako se ne mogu oteti utisku da su ljudi, gdje god, uvijek naročito oprezni prema manjinama (primjer: Romi, ta omiljena ciljna grupa za primjere diskriminacije i rasizma, da ne širim s primjerima). Uvijek se oni koji su u manjini moraju dokazivati da su OK i biti bolji od prosjeka da bi bili prihvaćeni, a opet istovremeno moraju računati s diskriminacijom. Ponekad je &quot;oprez&quot; eufemizam za &quot;diskriminaciju&quot;, na žalost.<br />
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:52:20 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>dunjica</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Manjina Mania</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>dunjica</b></div>Baptist denomination is different from Mennonites or Amish and it exists as an acknowledged religious group in the Balkans since 19th century. There has never been any organised Mennonite or Amish congregation in this area.</blockquote><br />
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drugachija je utoliko shto imaju razlichite teologije krshtenja, i shto anabaptisti imaju josh jednu svetu knjigu pored biblije, 'ogledalo muchenika', chini mi se, ili tako neshto.					]]>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:44:20 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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						nisu insinuacije utoliko shto ljudi ne poznaju anabaptistichku religiju toliko na nashim prostorima. zato je, kao neshto novo na tim prostorima, logichno da deo drushtva oseca nepoverenje prema njima. njima zato preostaje da predju trnoviti put, i steknu poverenje lokalne populacije tako shto ce svojom delatnoshcu doprineti poboljshanju kvaliteta zhivota, razumevanja, koegzistencije, mira... medju lokalnim stanovnishtvom. ukoliko jesu autentichni spiritualni fenomen, onda ne treba da ih plashi ako ih dochekuju &quot;na vile&quot;, poput Kazea. vec ce dokazati i sami da su peacelovin, ukoliko stvarno jesu.<br />
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a oprez stvarno nije nikada naodmet, radilo se o jehovama, ortodoksima, starokatolicima, reformistima, anabaptistima, shta god...					]]>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:37:37 GMT</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Srđan Fuchs</dc:creator>
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				<title>Re: Bez naslova</title>
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						<blockquote style='border:1px solid #DADAAB;border-left:4px solid #DADAAB;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;background-color:#F6F6DC;background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-bottomright.png) bottom right no-repeat;padding-bottom:20px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:4px;'><div style='background:#F6F6DC url(http://blog.b92.net/gfx/quote-topleft.png) top left no-repeat;height:25px;padding-left:26px;color:#7B7B60;'><b>bravar</b></div>Amisi su, zaista, neobicna populacija ljudi, istrgnuta iz ovog vremena, a u njemu.Istrajavaju, jer im je zivotni moto mnogo blizi prirodi. U zelji da dosegnemo kosmicke prasine, zaboravili smo da smo deo iste i da ako poremetimo ravnotezu koja postoji - nece nas biti. Na dobrom smo putu:(Treba imati snage i u xxi veku ziveti mimo zakona ponude i potraznje.U to ime, drago mi je znati da postoje takve zajednice ljudi. I nisu jedine.</blockquote><br />
...ne mogu da odolim.Jos jednom preporuka!<br />
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