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Chris Farmer RSS / 01.09.2009. u 10:34

There is abundant evidence to support the hypothesis that I am writing to you now from Serbia. Although I do not feel under any obligation to prove to you where I am, I certainly do not feel the need for someone to tell ME where I am.

And then along comes the Tourist Organization of Serbia.

All around Belgrade this summer, billboards and posters have sprung up. They have pictures of enticing foods, they have catchy slogans luring the idle passer by to dream about voyages to exotic places. When you look closer, you see that (Hey!) it is the food you had for lunch, and (Wait!) this is advertising for Serbia!

Hang on... aren't we already here?

Indeed we are, we in Belgrade respond. Why then, we ask ourselves, has the TOS decided to spend a lot of money for an advertising campaign promoting Serbia to Serbs and the rest of us here? This is where we began: I am sure I do not need them to tell me where I am.

When we travel to a foreign country (let's say Burkina Faso for example), we usually do so by a conscious act of free will. Therefore when we land in Ouagadougou, we do not need to be convinced to come to Burkina Faso. We have already bought that concept. Maybe a nice poster showing us the Park of Bangr Weogo or the sacred crocodiles of Sabou would be better...

A campaign for Serbia would be good, say, in another country where potential holiday-makers are at sixes and sevens about where to holiday-make. They might see a poster of delicious kajmak and sarma and say, "Ok honey, let's go to Serbia." However, the posters are written in Cyrillic characters, and the local holiday-maker from, say, Sheffield would have a hard time making it out. She might say, "Ok honey, let's go to Russia."

I begin to wonder about the target audience of this campaign. It is not foreign tourists, as anyone seeing them has already chosen to come here. It is not Western European tourists, because we cannot read the symbols. Who is it for anyway?

One (plausible) possibility is that it is aimed at all of us, encouraging us to stay home for the holidays. Another (much less plausible but more fun) possibility is that it is for accidental tourists who boarded a train in Istanbul thinking they were headed for Plovdiv but overslept and ended up in Belgrade. In this case, they might spring out of the compartment, stretch their legs and see these posters. "Serbia," they would say. "That sounds good! Let's go there!"

"But you are already here," the conductor would say.

"Splendid!"

Admittedly, this scenario does not seem entirely likely, but stranger things can happen. After all, there has to be a reason for creating such a lovely campaign for Serbia (and it is very nicely done) and placing it right here at home.

Can anyone help me understand this?

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Sepulturero Sepulturero 10:43 01.09.2009

It is not too difficult to guess...

Since you ARE in Serbia the most likely explanation is that some money changed hands (pockets).
Good article - recomendation.
Aleksandar Vasović Aleksandar Vasović 14:35 01.09.2009

Re: It is not too difficult to guess...

look, as we are not entirely sure we are really here and not on mars, hence the need for such bilboards. it tells me - wow! i am in serbia! no s**t! it is not just any la-la-land. it's a special la-la-land.
Aleksandar Stosic Aleksandar Stosic 11:06 01.09.2009

Balkan

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U just have to understand that this is a Balkan, and that's it!
Bojan Budimac Bojan Budimac 11:08 01.09.2009

Well Chris,

obviously you don't know one of old slogans -- "Get to know your homeland in order to love it more."
pape92 pape92 11:30 01.09.2009

***

You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you're doing is recording it.

(Art Buchwald)
mikimedic mikimedic 11:42 01.09.2009

Nothing puzzling

It is just... business.

Well... Serbian way of doing business.

well taught from communism.

You are new to the country, so you may not pick it up initially.

(I mean ... 'new'... you were not here during the seventies and eighties... golden age of the communism 'with human face').

Oh yes, we could travel then... to Burkina, to Niger, to US, to Moscow, you name it.
And how do we get there? With JAT of course.

With JAT, which commercial is endlessly repeated on Belgrade TV?
Competion, you would think?

Not really. More likely some manager in JAT was smart enough to allocate state funds to another manager in the state owned TV (his good friend, do I need to say?).

Then came nineties -- anything changed?

The winds of change -- 5th October? Sure...

All of a sudden, there is a new construction in Belgrade. Streets get paved. Five times the same street is (re)paved in the course of three years. Until their machines get blown up.
And new company then takes over.

Like on the 5th October.
Like on the 12th March.

Examples are numerous....

background noise background noise 12:12 01.09.2009

Come on Chris

It's about you, and you know it.

They just wannna keep you here, otherwise we're lost .

Stop teasing us!

olivera2804 olivera2804 12:44 01.09.2009

Re: Come on Chris

background noise


They just wannna keep you here, otherwise we're lost .





...By "Говори српски да те цео свет разуме" - yes, we are lost!
d j o l e d j o l e 12:14 01.09.2009

Maybe

Tourist Organization of Serbia is advertising local destinations so that more of local people (for example more of people from Belgrade) would spend their summer vacation here – at some local spa, mountain, by some riverbank, or at one of many village tourism destinations (hence the kajmak, proja, slanina, pecenje …)
duchesse duchesse 13:01 01.09.2009

Re: Maybe

Given the fact that Serbs have little money to spend on holidays abroad, the TOS is trying to sell them Serbia as not only the least expensive holiday spot, but as a place where they may taste kajmak, proja, pečenje and the like, going back to their rural roots away from the dehumanized lives they are forced to live in the Big City (I have met quite a lot of people who entertain these ideas). The TOS may also be bidding people to spend their hard earned cash at home.

When I come to think about it, going away to a remote village in Serbia would be more of change of scenery for me than Paris. I have Brie, or Camembert for breakfast often enough, but I don't remember the last time I had some good old fashioned kajmak, and I don't have any relatives in villages, as many inhabitants of Belgrade do, so I've never discovered the joys of country life. At the age of 30, I have yet to visit my first village.

All in all, what the TOS are doing makes sense to me, even though I wouldn't take them up on the offer. It'll be a while before I honestly wish to discover the authentic Serbian culture and its natural habitat.
haylee haylee 14:54 01.09.2009

Re: Maybe

duchesse
Given the fact that Serbs have little money to spend on holidays abroad, the TOS is trying to sell them Serbia as not only the least expensive holiday spot, but as a place where they may taste kajmak, proja, pečenje and the like, going back to their rural roots away from the dehumanized lives they are forced to live in the Big City (I have met quite a lot of people who entertain these ideas). The TOS may also be bidding people to spend their hard earned cash at home.

When I come to think about it, going away to a remote village in Serbia would be more of change of scenery for me than Paris. I have Brie, or Camembert for breakfast often enough, but I don't remember the last time I had some good old fashioned kajmak, and I don't have any relatives in villages, as many inhabitants of Belgrade do, so I've never discovered the joys of country life. At the age of 30, I have yet to visit my first village.

All in all, what the TOS are doing makes sense to me, even though I wouldn't take them up on the offer. It'll be a while before I honestly wish to discover the authentic Serbian culture and its natural habitat.


and it makes perfect sense to do this in late August and September, when school starts and everyone's coming back from the holidays they've already been to. Nope, I think Chris hit the bullseye here, and knowing how TOS operates, I hope this blog gets republished as much as possible. It's on my Facebook wall already.
duchesse duchesse 07:53 02.09.2009

Re: Maybe

haylee
and it makes perfect sense to do this in late August and September, when school starts and everyone's coming back from the holidays they've already been to.


What about the lower prices in the off season?

EDIT: Btw, I didn't realize they cropped up only in late August and September. I thought they've been around since the beginning of the season, which admittedly would make a lot more sense.
skyspoter skyspoter 13:25 01.09.2009

My experience of holidaying in Serbia

* There are a zillion different room types in every hotel
* There are a zillion different prices for the zillion different room types in every hotel
* Tax (government tax, hotel tax – don’t know ) – every hotel has a different amount and its never included in the room price
* Kid’s prices – don’t take kids on holiday in Serbia. Leave them at home!
* If you are foreigner please learn the Cyrillic alphabet: all the maps and important information leaflets are in Cyrillic

BTW what do you expect from a country which hasn’t got a Ministry of Tourism? Or is it part of some other Ministry and under Mr Djinkic who is too busy selling factories before turning his attention to hotels all around Serbia.
duchesse duchesse 13:46 01.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

skyspoter
BTW what do you expect from a country which hasn’t got a Ministry of Tourism? Or is it part of some other Ministry and under Mr Djinkic who is too busy selling factories before turning his attention to hotels all around Serbia.


It's spelled Dinkić. And why would anyone want to spend their holiday in Serbia, anyway? Seriously, I'd like to know.

verchi verchi 15:36 01.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

Because its beautiful and open country to every foreigner. And i am one of those foreigners. Zivim na Karaburmi.
skyspoter skyspoter 16:57 01.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

why would anyone want to spend their holiday in Serbia, anyway



its very simple.

I love Serbia.

duchesse duchesse 08:03 02.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

verchi
open country to every foreigner


I wouldn't bet on this. I know some Indians for example who had rather a bad time because lots of people thought they were gypsies.
duchesse duchesse 08:10 02.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

skyspoter
I love Serbia.


People are willing to put up with all sorts of things for the sake of love.
verchi verchi 14:50 03.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

duchesse
verchi
open country to every foreigner


I wouldn't bet on this. I know some Indians for example who had rather a bad time because lots of people thought they were gypsies.

So, serbian are not so open with gipsys. Maybe. But they are with foreigners like me.
And for my little experience, (i saw lots of gipsies on streets) people is not so bad with them too.
Dawngreeter Dawngreeter 17:24 03.09.2009

Re: My experience of holidaying in Serbia

I wouldn't brag about the magnitude of your experience in that case.
eizo eizo 14:33 01.09.2009

...

I gave up on trying to understand this country long time ago and i was born here, what chance do you have ?

Our motto should be "Meet our country so you could love your country more"
duchesse duchesse 08:13 02.09.2009

Re: ...

eizo
I gave up on trying to understand this country long time ago and i was born here, what chance do you have ?




eizo
"Meet our country so you could love your country more"


"Get to know Serbia, so as to have a greater urge to leave."
haylee haylee 14:37 01.09.2009

chris

this is the best one to date!

i was ROFLing all over the place
ninasimone ninasimone 17:32 01.09.2009

welcome to here

....because you are not here until TOS sais you are here! not to mention MUP a.k.a. police...
Filip2412 Filip2412 18:32 01.09.2009

...

Serbs always used to travel way too much, usually spending their vacation far away all around the globe. Also, very soon we won't even need visa for EU anymore.

So, TOS started to panic; this is not reasonable reaction, and you can say they are out of their minds.
Dragan Pavlicevic Dragan Pavlicevic 10:11 02.09.2009

Re: ...

mogul_sad_ja_kasti mogul_sad_ja_kasti 18:45 01.09.2009

Welcome to Here!


...from the same reason why Americans have their flags all over the USA!......and world wide...
Chris Farmer Chris Farmer 19:14 01.09.2009

Re: Welcome to Here!

Hmm...

Apples and frogs, I think. Oranges and grandmothers.
mogul_sad_ja_kasti mogul_sad_ja_kasti 21:04 01.09.2009

Re: Welcome to Here!

Hmm...

Apples and frogs, I think. Oranges and grandmothers.


hm......or... a point of wieu?...
duchesse duchesse 08:16 02.09.2009

Re: Welcome to Here!

Chris Farmer
Apples and frogs, I think. Oranges and grandmothers.



Dawngreeter Dawngreeter 21:38 01.09.2009

Anyway, vacations suck.

These posters have been bugging the hell out of me. I think what they are going for is something along the lines of: "Serbia - we rock!" only constructed a bit more elaborately to make us think about it.

Hmm, Serbia. You know what Pero, we just might rock. I think we rock. No man, just look at that photoshopped idyllic countryside landscape! We do rock!

In reality though, I think they might serve as a summer-long example to be used when the school starts. Kids, if you don't study hard, you'll end up like those people making Serbia posters. Another way to look at it would be that the entire purpose behind the posters is to make people who have no money to take a summer vacation feel better about staying home. It might not work for those who can't afford to take a vacation even if they don't leave Serbia.
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:20 01.09.2009

Re: Anyway, vacations suck.

only constructed a bit more elaborately to make us think about it.

srdjan.pajic srdjan.pajic 05:44 02.09.2009

Re: Anyway, vacations suck.

Dawngreeter
These posters have been bugging the hell out of me. I think what they are going for is something along the lines of: "Serbia - we rock!" only constructed a bit more elaborately to make us think about it.

Hmm, Serbia. You know what Pero, we just might rock. I think we rock. No man, just look at that photoshopped idyllic countryside landscape! We do rock!

In reality though, I think they might serve as a summer-long example to be used when the school starts. Kids, if you don't study hard, you'll end up like those people making Serbia posters. Another way to look at it would be that the entire purpose behind the posters is to make people who have no money to take a summer vacation feel better about staying home. It might not work for those who can't afford to take a vacation even if they don't leave Serbia.


Ma jok, nego smo pukli za Djavolju rosva, pa da se vadimo

I can't find my Hitchhiker's Guide in English, (though, I have a towel!), so I'll say it in Serbian, if you don't mind:

TOS = "Banda nesposobnih tupadzija koji ce prvi uza zid, kad se digne kuka i motika..."
Dawngreeter Dawngreeter 09:17 02.09.2009

Re: Anyway, vacations suck.

The Encyclopaedia Galactica defines a robot as a mechanical apparatus designed to do the work of a man. The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun To Be With."

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes," with a footnote to the effect that the editors would welcome applications from anyone interested in taking over the post of robotics correspondent.

Curiously enough, an edition of the Encyclopaedia Galactica that had the good fortune to fall through a time warp from a thousand years in the future defined the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."

srdjan.pajic srdjan.pajic 18:40 02.09.2009

Re: Anyway, vacations suck.

Dawngreeter
The Encyclopaedia Galactica defines a robot as a mechanical apparatus designed to do the work of a man. The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun To Be With."

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes," with a footnote to the effect that the editors would welcome applications from anyone interested in taking over the post of robotics correspondent.

Curiously enough, an edition of the Encyclopaedia Galactica that had the good fortune to fall through a time warp from a thousand years in the future defined the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."



Hvala kolega , da te pocastim sa par lepih rima:

Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee
That mordiously hath bitled out
Its earted jurtles
Into a rancid festering [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles
Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts
And living glupules frart and slipulate
Like jowling meated liverslime
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon
See if I don't.
dingo79 dingo79 02:34 03.09.2009

SHAME ON THEM


“ All around Belgrade this summer, billboards and posters have sprung up. They have pictures of enticing foods, they have catchy slogans luring the idle passer by to dream about voyages to exotic places. When you look closer, you see that (Hey!) it is the food you had for lunch, and (Wait!) this is advertising for Serbia! “

OooooooooPs SHAME, SHAME SHAME on Tourist Organization of Serbia for not placing ads for Golden Archers or Burger King better yet Taco Bell....ShAAAAAAAAAAAmEEEEEE on those in Serbia for advertising local cousin how dare they.

“ A campaign for Serbia would be good, say, in another country where potential holiday- makers are at sixes and sevens about where to holiday-make. They might see a poster of delicious kajmak and sarma and say, "Ok honey, let's go to Serbia." However, the posters are written in Cyrillic characters, and the local holiday-maker from, say, Sheffield would have a hard time making it out. She might say, "Ok honey, let's go to Russia." “

O my god!!!!!!!!! is it just possible that SERBS are living in SERBIA?????????? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat THEY HAVE THEIR MOTHER TOUNGE IS NOT ENGLISH??????????????????



“ I begin to wonder about the target audience of this campaign. It is not foreign tourists, as anyone seeing them has already chosen to come here. It is not Western European tourists, because we cannot read the symbols. Who is it for anyway? “

The Tourist Organization of Serbia definitely SHOULD BE TAKEN TO HAGUE AND TRIED AGAINST GRIVES BREACH OF ADVERTISING PLAGARISM FOR COPYING EXPLORE NEW ZELAND BEFORE YOU GO ANY WHERE ELSE

Can anyone help me understand this?


THANK YOU CHRIS FOR BRINGING TO OUR ATTANTION THE SRBIANIZATION OF

SERBIA BY THE Tourist Organization of Serbia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SAY TO HAGUE WITH ALL OF THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW DARE SERBS KEEP SERBIA UNDER SERBIAN OCUPATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS MATTER OF FACT ALL SERBS TO HAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!
duchesse duchesse 07:39 03.09.2009

Re: SHAME ON THEM

Čemu histerija, to sve može da se kaže i na lep način?
I ukini Caps Lock - nepristojno je.
Ako hoćeš da braniš Srbiju od nasrtaja stranog agresora, seti se one stare dobre dečije pesmice:
Domovina se brani lepotom
I čašću i znanjem
Domovina se brani životom
I lepim vaspitanjem

Ajd uzdravlje!
Dawngreeter Dawngreeter 08:34 03.09.2009

Re: SHAME ON THEM

This little bit of illiterate histrionics does a good job of showcasing exactly who this campaign was aimed at. People who think they are "winning" if they are told by their government that they live in Serbia. All of it paid for with their own tax money.
duchesse duchesse 08:48 03.09.2009

Re: SHAME ON THEM

Unfortunately, they're the majority.
I shudder to think how many similar comments there would be if more Serbs used the Internet.
zzz zzz 10:42 03.09.2009

Serbia's pretty face

LOL I needed this! I had similar conversation with my friend recently (we both have the same dilemma). Can’t help you cause I don’t understand either but then Serbs are often malicious toward their own country so I really wouldn’t be surprised if the side effect (doubt this was the main goal although why not?) to show Serbs pretty face of Serbia, face unknown to them.
ljiljana.rogac ljiljana.rogac 12:12 03.09.2009

SERBIA FROM THE HEART www.srbijaodsrca.org

Maybe we should not talk much about hypothesis on Serbia - there have been many of them in recent years, mostly ending up with hard core stereotypes. And to talk about emotions, well, it's even more delicate, especially for those of us who feel all the ambivalences of living in Serbia, and in spite of everything - LOVING SERBIA.

National Tourism Organisation of Serbia, which I work for by the way, supports ideas promoting Serbia with excellence. "Serbia from the Heart", which is the name of the bilboard campaign, and a whole project behind it, is such an example. It is an independent project, which lastst for four years now - find out more at www.srbijaodsrca.org. So, National Tourism Organisation of Serbia DID NOT finance this campaign, but it provided full institutional support. The idea behind was to remind people living in cities like Belgrade or Novi Sad that Serbia has lots of forgotten or undiscovered places, natural attractions and keepers od the rich intangible heritage.

Anyway, these photos and messages are there - so enjoy them - they might show the way to discovering traces of beauty of the open hearted Serbia!
Filip2412 Filip2412 14:45 03.09.2009

Re: SERBIA FROM THE HEART www.srbijaodsrca.org

The idea behind was to remind people living in cities like Belgrade or Novi Sad that Serbia has lots of forgotten or undiscovered places, natural attractions and keepers od the rich intangible heritage.


Yeah, Serbia has many undiscovered and forgotten places, but Zlatibor is surely not one of those. Zlatibor is fancy spot occupied and partially ruined already by people from big cities who come there to show off and spend lot’s of money.

Serbia did forget many other places though, will give you some examples: Pirot, Vranje, Bujanovac, Presevo, Kursumlija, Prokuplje, Leskovac... unlike Zlatibor, most people from Belgrade or Novi Sad will never ever visit those places in their lifetime, although Serbia is so small by territory.

That's the problem with the billboard campaign. It doesn't have a point, it doesn't target anything; it's just one more pointless waste of money.

And come on, kajmak, bred and potatoes?? As Chris said, what is the point of showing to me on a billboard something I've just had for lunch?
Chris Farmer Chris Farmer 15:04 03.09.2009

Re: SERBIA FROM THE HEART www.srbijaodsrca.org

Sadly, Ljiljana, the good intentions notwithstanding, this has not been a campaign which talks up internal tourist destinations but rather one which feels rather more rah-rah nationalist (which serves a purpose for some people, but not so much for the tourism industry). But even more than nationalistic, it is a campaign that seems just wrong.

Almost every country with a little budget will spend it on “internal morale.” The US does it prodigiously but so too do European countries. In these kinds of campaigns, an emotional appeal to values is made, perhaps through some tourist-like images as well, but more to evoke a sense of national pride. I fail to see that this campaign has had that affect either.

If we want to talk up Zlatibor and other internal destinations, then let’s, by all means. But leave Serbia out of the picture: the target audience is quite well aware of where they are.

I admit – as you say – that the graphic execution is beautiful. I am only sorry that these billboards are not hung in other countries (in the appropriate language and alphabet) where the impact might be greater.

In the end, it seems like a colossal waste of money (our tax money which does not seem to pay for even more basic needs) for little outcome.

CBF
Milena Mitic Milena Mitic 09:21 04.09.2009

Re: SERBIA FROM THE HEART www.srbijaodsrca.org

ljiljana.rogac
Anyway, these photos and messages are there - so enjoy them - they might show the way to discovering traces of beauty of the open hearted Serbia!

well, maybe people would enjoy them more if they could understand them :). A little bit of english wouldn't harm anyone (except those poor, sensitive nationalists).
dingo79 dingo79 19:32 03.09.2009

Salvation from sarma & Srbofils



[b]To web master/administrator: Please note the links at bottom of text are not advertising nor have I been solicited by owners of the mentioned sites to include here. They have been chosen at random and are here only to supplement the blog discussion.[/b]



It is more than obvious that Serbia is a labyrinth of Despair & Institutionalism with stench of rot permeating from within. I can not but feel for all the literate talent that contributed within this blog especially Dawngreeter “This little bit of illiterate …......” and of course how can I forget duchesse and her lesson of etiquette and eloquence “I shudder to think how many similar comments there would be if more Serbs used the Internet. “ Oh dear me! Can you really imagine that Serbs have reached that level of evolution and sophistication to even begin to comprehend what INTERNET is let alone use it.

Just a small note in passing to CBF, hey Bro I completely understand your apprehension with SARMA & KAJMAK.Can you imagine 1 million “SERBS” eating 2-3 SARM'S each with say 300grm of KAJMAK and after a while they start to release that Potent gas and now imagine 6million. Saddam's arsenal of WMD's pales in comparison. Now wind being the way it is the whole of Europe would be covered by this mushroom cloud in no time. So what do you think would happen. I can just hear Robin saying to Batman “Gosh Batman George was right Saddam did have WMD's only he managed to hide them in SERBIA with Slobo's help”. So what happens next? Well, I can not even begin to contemplate. So if we want clean fresh air outlaw KAJMAK, KUPUS, PASULJ, PROJA etc., and bring in Big Macs, Burger King,Wendy's, KFC, Domino, Pizza Hutt, Taco Bell, Krispy Kreme , Starbucks ….....

By the way CBF do you think Tourist Organization of Serbia knows that you are expert in business development and communications? I am sure if they knew and especially the way you analyzed the effect that is ineffectiveness of their current campaign that they would have been only too glad to retain your services.

In any case if any of you are looking to escape that dreadful place, then click on the following
http://www.tourism.net.nz/ ;
http://www.australia.com/index.aspx ;
http://corporate.tourism.nsw.gov.au/ ;
http://www.fijime.com/
http://www.southamericatourism.com/
http://www.southafrica.net/sat/content/en/au/home

Regards

Dingo79

Dawngreeter Dawngreeter 20:28 03.09.2009

Re: Salvation from sarma & Srbofils

Filip2412 Filip2412 20:29 03.09.2009

Re: Salvation from sarma & Srbofils

Ma treba onom seljaku Palmi iz Jagodine dati da upravlja TOS i za godinu dana bi napravio revoluciju. Ima on vise zdravog razuma nego svi ostali politicari zajedno.
duchesse duchesse 12:34 04.09.2009

Re: Salvation from sarma & Srbofils

I didn't realize Chris asked to be delivered from sarma & Srbophilia.
As for free lessons in etiquette and eloquence, here's one in style:
use sarcasm sparingly to achieve maximum effect.

Arhiva

   

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