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Established vs. Emergent - Ustanovljeno vs. Pojavno

Mark Pullen RSS / 08.12.2012. u 11:45

established [ -st b l sh d]: brought about, set up or accepted; especially long established; "the established social order"; "an established precedent"; "the established Church"; accepted, traditional, conventional, historic, customary, time-honoured
Ustanovljeno: uveden, postavljen ili prihvacen; dugo uvrezen, zvanicno prihvacen; "uspostavljeni drustveni poredak"; "ustanovljen presedan"; "zvanicna crkva"; prihvacen, tradicionalan, konvencionalan, istorijski, obicajni, vremenski potvrdjen

emergent [ɪˈmɜːdʒənt]: coming into being or notice "an emergent political structure"; coming into view, existence, or notice; sudden, emerging, nascent 
Pojavno: dolazi u postojanje i zapazanje "rastuca politicka struktura"; dolazi u vidokrug, postojanje,ili zapazanje; iznenadno, proizaslo, koje se radja

The persistent among you will have seen with my last post that there's a fine line between theory and fantasy, dogma and fiction, dream and reality, physics and philosophy.
Istrajni medju vama mogli su primetiti u mom poslednjem tekstu da je tanka linija izmedju teorije i fantazije, dogme i fikcije, snova i realnosti, fizike i filozofije.

The key here, as shown above, is that we should forget about most of what is classed as established and treat most things as emergent. In this sense there's very little that's set in stone in this world and even less that should be.
Kljucno ovde, kao sto je prethodno navedeno, je da bi trebalo da zaboravimo sta je klasifikovano kao ustanovljeno i tretiramo vecinu stvari kao pojavne. U tom smislu malo je onoga sto mozemo smatrati konacno utvrdjenim na ovom svetu a jos manje onoga sto bi trebalo fiksirati kao finalni zakljucak.

As the visionary and forward-thinking innovator Jacque Frescoe insists: "There are no final frontiers. People think I'm a Utopian. I don't. Even if I design a city that works, that city will be a straight jacket to the kids of the future. They'll design their own cities. If you build a statue of me and put it in a city, that only holds people back. In order to move forward you have to look at a thing, examine it, improve it and move on."
Kao sto vizionar i napredni inovator Jacque Frescoe insistira: "Nema krajnje granice. Ljudi misle da sam utopista. Ja ne mislim tako. Cak i da dizajniram grad koji funkcionise sada taj grad ce biti ludacka kosulja za decu iz buducnosti. Oni ce dizajnirati svoje gradove. Ako napravis moju statuu i postavis je u grad, to samo sputava ljude. Da bi napredovali moramo da sagledamo stvari, ispitamo ih, unapredimo i nastavimo dalje."

Certain fields, such as science and technology, treat almost everything as emergent as opposed to established. Even theories that might be classed as completely "established", such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity or Darwin's Theory of Evolution, can change and develop over time as new evidence comes to light. For example, Darwin's original notion of "gradualism" is challenged by theories of "punctuated equilibrium" and that's fine because all theories are to an extent emergent.
Odredjene oblasti kao sto su nauka i tehnologija, pristupaju svemu kao "stvarima u razvoju". Cak i teorije koje bi mogle da budu klasifikovane kao kompletno "utvrdjena stvar" kao sto je Ajnstajnova teorija relativiteta ili Dravinova terorija evolucije, mogu se promeniti vremenom i novim dokazima i otkricima. Na primer, Darvinova originalni pojam "postepenosti" je uzdrmana teorijama "isprekidanih ravnoteza" i to je u redu jer sve teorije su u odredjenoj meri pojavne.

Indeed, with evolution in mind, as long as something is classed as "emergent" it can continue to evolve. As soon as it becomes "established" any evolution halts. In today's world we see the fast and dynamic evolution of, for instance, computer technology, robotics, cosmology etc., which would not be possible if the world had decided that the Spectrum 128 was as good as computer technology could get and stopped seeking to grow.
Zapravo, imajuci u vidu evoluciju, dokle god je nesto okarakterisano kao "pojavno" moze nastaviti da evoluira. Cim postane "ustanovljeno" svaka mogucnost evolucije je zaustavljena. U svetu danasnjice vidimo brzu i dinamicnu evoluciju, na primer kompjuterske tehnologije, robotike, kosmologije, itd koja ne bi bila moguca da je svet odlucio da je Spectrum 128 najbolje sto kompjuterska tehnologija moze da proizvede i da se tu stalo sa potragom za rastom.

Any scientist who holds onto a theory as established despite the emergence of new evidence disproving that theory is quickly left behind and actually stops being a scientist at all and becomes a Luddite clinging to the irrelevant past.
Svaki naucnik koji smatra odredjenu teoriju ustanovljenom uprkos novim dokazima koji osporavaju tu teoriju, je naprosto skrajnut i prestaje da biva naucnik i postaje neko ko se drzi ludisticki za irelevantnu proslost.

In the same way, any economic theorist who clings on to the notion that the invisible hand of the market will ultimately ensure global balance, despite evidence showing us that this is not the case, ceases to be a true economic theorist and instead becomes a pawn of the strongest market players, who rely on a lack of regulatory control or rules of cross-sector ownership, and is actually responsible for holding back genuine progress.
Na isti nacin, svaki ekonomski teoreticar koji se drzi za pojam da ce nevidljiva ruka trzista na kraju ipak osigurati globalnu ravnotezu, uprkos dokazima koji jasno govore da to nece biti slucaj, prestaje da biva pravi ekonomski teoreticar vec postaje pion najjacih trzisnih igraca koji jacaju zbog nedostatka pravne regulative i kontrole u oblasti medjusektorskog vlasnistva i postaje zapravo odgovoran za sputavanje pravog napretka.

These people will brand anyone suggesting an alternative economic theory as a communist, socialist or even, God forbid, an idealist.
Ovi ljudi ce, svakoga ko sugerise alternativnu ekonomsku teoriju, etiketirati kao komunistu, socijalistu ili cak, ne daj Boze, idealistu.

As the late, great Bill Hicks suggested "the reason we have so many problems with politics, economics and religion is that we've outgrown them; they're no longer relevant and that's why they're failing."
Kao sto pokojni, veliki Bil Hiks rece "razlog zbog kojeg imamo toliko problema oko politike, ekonomije i religije je taj sto smo ih prerasli; nisu vise relevantni i zato se urusavaju."

The fact is that any sector that clings to established notions is unable to progress and in our world this applies to the most crucial areas of politics and economics.
Cinjenica je da bilo koja oblast koja se drzi za uspostavljene pojmove ne moze napredovati, a u nasem svetu to se odnosi na krucijalne oblasti kao sto su politika i ekonomija.

While technology and science continue to evolve and advance exponentially, they are actually held back by frameworks that are prevented from advancing because the system does not allow it, due only to the vested interests of the leading market players. This creates an imbalance that will continue and grow deeper for as long as we allow it to, i.e. for as long as we accept to live by the rules of an outdated system that promotes outdated technologies because of the profit margins of those who already own everything.
Dok tehnologija i nauka nastavljaju da evoluiraju i napreduju eksponencijalno, zapravo su sputani okvirima koji sprecavaju dalje napredovanje jer sistem to ne dozvoljava, a sve to zbog uticajnih krugova vodecih trzisnih igraca. To kreira disbalans koja ce se nastaviti i rasti dublje, dokle god mi to dozvoljavamo, t.j dokle god prihvatamo da zivimo po pravilima zastarelih sistema koji promovisu staromodne tehnologije zbog rasta profita onih koji vec poseduju sve.

Fossil fuels, for instance, are no longer necessary and that's a fact. Planned obsolescence is not only unnecessary, but is actually extremely harmful. Mass production of non-recyclable products based on market research is wasteful and harmful to the environment.
Fosilna goriva, na primer, nisu vise neophodna i to je cinjenica. Planska zastarelost nije samo nepotrebna nego je, stavise, veoma stetna. Masovna produkcija nereciklirajucih proizvoda, bazirano na istrazivanju trzista, je rasipnistvo i veoma steti zivotnoj sredini.

The ancient combustion engine is a joke when electric cars are now capable of providing a fast, reliable means of transport - or at least they were until the oil and motor industries killed them in 2005.
Staromodni motor na sagorevanje je smesan kada su elektricni automobili brza, pouzdana prevozna sredstva- ili bolje reci su bili dok ih naftna i automobilska industrije nisu unistile 2005.

The technology required to stop the rape of the Earth is no longer theoretical. It exists right now! Solar, wind and wave power are real, as is nano technology.
Tehnologija potrebna da se zaustavi silovanje planete Zemlje nije vise teoretska. Postoji sada! Solarni paneli, energije vetra i talasa su stvarnost, kao i nano tehnologija.

Abundance for all in harmony with nature is no longer a Utopian dream, but a genuine option.
Izobilje za sve u harmoniji sa prirodom nije vise utopijski san vec prava opcija.

The plunder and pillage of the planet has now become a choice instead of a necessity.
Otimacina i pustosenje planete je sada postalo nas izbor a ne nasa potreba.

War is now obsolete because technological advances ensure there is actually enough to support life for billions more people than currently live on the Earth. "Us or them" is no longer the reality when technology ensures there's enough for "us and them".
Rat je nepotreban jer tehnoloski napredak osigurava da ima zapravo dovoljno da se izdrava jos milijarde vise ljudi nego sto je trenutno na planeti. „Mi ili Oni" vise nije realnost kada tehnologija obezbedi da ima „i za nas i za njih".

As such, if Mother Earth chooses to wipe us from her face tomorrow we'll have no grounds for complaint.
Kao takva, ako majka Zemlja izabere da nas izbrise sa svog lica sutra, necemo imati osnova za zalbu.

Why install gas pipelines when you could construct solar panels with long-term energy storage facilities, developed in Kragujevac?!
Zasto instalirati gasovod kada mozes da konstruises solarne panele sa postrojenjima za dugorcno skladjenje energije, koji je razvijen u Kragujevcu?!



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jinks jinks 12:14 08.12.2012

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Established:



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Emergent:
Mark Pullen Mark Pullen 12:39 08.12.2012

Re: ...

almost, but emergence would have to be a circling upwards spiral, like our true orbit in relation to the Sun.
jinks jinks 13:00 08.12.2012

Re: ...

Yes ... btw, maybe circle itself can be considered to be a type of spiral.
Out of Beirut Out of Beirut 14:53 08.12.2012

emergent

...This creates an imbalance that will continue and grow deeper for as long as we allow it to, i.e. for as long as we accept to live by the rules of an outdated system that promotes outdated technologies because of the profit margins of those who already own everything.

I'd say ... as long as we accept to live by system rules _period_
Our feelings and intellectual creativity cannot function & express themselves normally as long as we're bound by such rules. Even ethical rules like the ten commandments may be there only to help us when we're deficient in love or thought.

Abundance for all in harmony with nature is no longer a Utopian dream, but a genuine option. ... "Us or them" is no longer the reality when technology ensures there's enough for "us and them".

But I think the way such Good Life is described lacks in drama, profundity and mysticism ...for most people. And since nature is dynamic, it's not as clear as it might seem what it means to be in harmony with her. Deep down people sense we're servants to something huge, & that we ought to strive for something much more involving than e.g. putting man on Mars.
Mark Pullen Mark Pullen 17:31 08.12.2012

Re: emergent

Ultimately, I think the only true rules of the 'system' we live in are the 'emerging' rules of physics. We need to maximise our ability - through science and technology - to fully understand and adhere to those rules for one reason: to maximise our existence in this biosphere and free up our valuable time, en masse, to exploring other levels of consciousness - the next evolutionary spiral...

...but perhaps that's a bit heavy for a mainstream B92 blog
Mark Pullen Mark Pullen 11:45 13.12.2012

Re: emergent

Physics & philosophy - consciousness is all:
http://www.social-consciousness.com/2009/04/tom-campbell-theory-of-everything.html
highshalfbooze highshalfbooze 01:17 09.12.2012

Zvuči neverovatno

Zasto instalirati gasovod kada mozes da konstruises solarne panele sa postrojenjima za dugorcno skladjenje energije, koji je razvijen u Kragujevcu?!


Ovo što je čovek napravio zvuči neverovatno. Ali je svakako vrlo jednostavno da se proveri. A ako je istina, onda je to revolucionarni pronalazak.

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