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Jelica Greganović RSS / 01.10.2013. u 18:17

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Zašto ovu porodicu žele da izbace iz Srbije, odnosno iz Novog Sada u kome živi? Ne insiuniram, pitam, jer mi ovo sve izgleda čudno. Zbog čega bi se neko ostrvio na porodicu sa troje male dece?

 Hello my name is Simon Wilson Philipino/American age 31, I’m a proud member of the Novi Sad community for over 3 years now, a business owner, a volunteer, artist & designer. I’m married to Evdoxia Seitanidou (Greek age 32) now for 8 years & we have 3 children Nathaniel age 6, William age 4 & Juliet age 2.


My wife and I are some of the founders of the Culture Exchange, a cultural center & Bike Kitchen here in Novi Sad. The Culture Exchange has been very active in the community offering a free Bike Kitchen, free workshops on bikes, art, crafts, sewing etc. free language courses in Serbian, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, German & English. We are also a venue for live music supporting many local artists. The concept of culture exchange is to create a community space geared towards social work that can run by itself without the need for government grants or other such support. So far the concept has worked well due to help from many volunteers & in the first year has reached a level of sustainability. 

I’m writing this now as a member of the Novi Sad community which I believe has a wonderful, rich history of tolerance, openness & multiculturalism. I, my wife & children would love to see this continue & we hope to live in Novi Sad for many years to come as we continue to work to make this city a better place to live in. 

The problem is now, for whatever reason, we have been targeted by factions in Novi Sad who are less open minded than most, who want to keep Serbia in the dark ages, through fear, xenophobia, homophobia, racism, fascism & the like. We have been accused of the most random & ridiculous things, & have received threats on our person & our lives. Despite complete transparency & openness in our dealings with the authorities & besides being a tax paying citizen of Novi Sad, with one of my kids going to public school here we have been given till the end of October to leave the country. With everyone from the police to our lawyers lying to us & bullying us, changing their story every day & trying their utmost to force us out of the country.

I have dedicated the last 4 years of my life towards Serbia & Novi Sad, living on next to nothing & working for free to help the peoples of Novi Sad. My business pays taxes & is a local Serbian business with a goal towards export creating a stronger Serbian economy & keeping the money local. I have fought with foreign companies & media to improve the Serbian name in the eyes of the west, defending Serbia at every opportunity.

I have traveled around the world to some 30-40 countries & lived in at least 10 & I have never previously experienced the corruption & intolerance that I have experienced here now in the last few months. We live in a troubling time in Serbia & the choice is yours every day to fight for your rights or to submit to fascism & intolerance. Recently a professor, husband & father was brutally beaten in our city by a group of homophobic youth. There is presently a trend in Novi Sad heading in a very bad direction, down a very dark path. Please spread the word & fight with us to keep Novi Sad the free & tolerant place we all hope in our hearts she is. We salute & appreciate any & all people in the police & media who are fighting to make their community a free & wonderful place to live. 

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”



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Bojan Budimac Bojan Budimac 21:03 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno


Ti zaista mislis kako nasi politicari samostalno donose odluke?

Ne mislim, ali to nema nikakve veze sa ovim o čemu pričamo.
AlexDunja AlexDunja 21:04 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

Tako što konzularni predstavnik ambasade pozove nadležne u državi Srbiji i priupita o čem se radi, i pomaže Sajmonu V. da se nađe rešenje problema.


pa dobro, ali ne verujem da bi sa tim izašao u medije
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 21:17 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

iskreno, ja nikad nisam videla u medijima
da bilo koja ambasada traži da se njihovom
državljaninu omogući boravak

To se ne radi u medijima, nego u razgovoru sa nadležnim organima.
AlexDunja AlexDunja 21:22 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

To se ne radi u medijima, nego u razgovoru sa nadležnim organima.

ok, ali cela frka je ovde što ne reaguje ambasada,
nekoliko blogera je napisalo da bi smo videli ambasadora na naslovnoj b92,
als kaže da oni stalno dižu frku po medijima...
na to sam reagovala.

mi ne znamo ni da li je ambasada reagovala,
ni da li su se obratili ambasadi za pomoć.
možda samo misle da to nije posao za ambasadu, već za naše vlasti.
jer, objektivno, ambasada nema ingerencije da zahteva da se njima odobri boravak, ni američka ni grčka
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 21:27 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

ok, ali cela frka je ovde što ne reaguje ambasada,
nekoliko blogera je napisalo da bi smo videlai ambasadora na naslovnoj b92,
als kaže da oni stalno dižu frku po medijima...
na to sam reagovala.

Ma, nije frka, razgovaramo...to sa ambasadorom na bilo kojoj naslovnoj je preterano, naravno.


mi ne znamo ni da li je ambasada reagovala,
ni da li su se obratili ambasadi za pomoć.

Ne znamo, on to u svom "obraćanju javnosti" ne pominje.

možda samo misle da to nije posao za ambasadu, već za naše vlasti.

Neko ko je kao on, to gore piše, živeo u 10 zemalja pre Srbije, sigurno zna čemu služe ambasade.

jer, objektivno, ambasada nema ingerencije da zahteva da se njima odobri boravak, ni američka ni grčka

Niko nije ni rekao da ima, ali njen konzularni predstavnik služi upravo tome da pomogne državljaninu svoje zemlje u ovakvoj situaciji. Kakva je ta pomoć, to oni sami ocenjuju.
alselone alselone 21:33 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

AlexDunja
To se ne radi u medijima, nego u razgovoru sa nadležnim organima.

ok, ali cela frka je ovde što ne reaguje ambasada,
nekoliko blogera je napisalo da bi smo videli ambasadora na naslovnoj b92,
als kaže da oni stalno dižu frku po medijima...
na to sam reagovala.

mi ne znamo ni da li je ambasada reagovala,
ni da li su se obratili ambasadi za pomoć.
možda samo misle da to nije posao za ambasadu, već za naše vlasti.
jer, objektivno, ambasada nema ingerencije da zahteva da se njima odobri boravak, ni američka ni grčka


Pa ne mora ambasada direktno. Ide se po utabanoj stazi. Izadje neko od "domacih partnera" tipa jelena milic pa kaze sta vec treba. Ili novine napisu.
AlexDunja AlexDunja 21:38 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

Pa ne mora ambasada direktno. Ide se po utabanoj stazi. Izadje neko od "domacih partnera" tipa jelena milic pa kaze sta vec treba. Ili novine napisu.


pa koliko ja vidim utabana staza radi samo za dveri obraz
i novog gradonačelnika
tojest, postoje samo podaci da su sekta po medijima:)

nešto je zaškripalo za nato
AlexDunja AlexDunja 21:41 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

Niko nije ni rekao da ima, ali njen konzularni predstavnik služi upravo tome da pomogne državljaninu svoje zemlje u ovakvoj situaciji. Kakva je ta pomoć, to oni sami ocenjuju.


znam, jelice,
previše je nepoznanica ovde, da vidimo sutra tu pres konferenciju,
možda se nešto i razjasni...
freehand freehand 21:56 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

znam, jelice,

Znaš - šta?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:01 01.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno


Znaš - šta?

što bi reko džilas: zini da ti kažem:)

šala, znam da oni određuju kakva je pomoć njihovim građanima potrebna,
to je opšte mesto, ali niti znamo da li su se njihovi državljani obratili za pomoć, ni da li im je ikakva pomoć pružena,

dakle, da sačekamo do sutra, nije daleko:)
alselone alselone 07:02 02.10.2013

Re: meni je nejasno

nešto je zaškripalo za nato


Pa to i ja kazem. Upravo to. Samo jedna strana se oglasava a druga upadljivo cuti.
princi princi 21:30 01.10.2013

Sine!

Subotari!
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 21:34 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Sine!
Subotari!


Što se mene tiče nek su i četvrtkari, ali deportovati porodicu sa troje male dece, tek tako, je prilično čudno i gadno.
mlekac mlekac 21:34 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

princi
Subotari!


E, sad si me nacisto zbunio. Koliko je mojoj malenkosti poznato "Subotari" je naziv koji se upotrebljava za pripadnike Adventisticke crkve, a ona je, cini mi se, u ovoj zemlji prisutna jos od pre II sv. rata, sa sve objektima na vrlo poznatim lokacijama...

Kakve veze to sve ima sa ovom pricom?
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 21:35 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Kakve veze to sve ima sa ovom pricom?

Princi je bio sarkastičan. I to je sve.
mlekac mlekac 21:39 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Jelica Greganović
Kakve veze to sve ima sa ovom pricom?

Princi je bio sarkastičan. I to je sve.

Sorry, ne funkcionise mi mozak najbolje - visa sila.
maksa83 maksa83 21:39 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

princi
Subotari!

Vikinzi!
AlexDunja AlexDunja 21:44 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Vikinzi!

vrabac_u_steni vrabac_u_steni 21:50 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

princi
Subotari!


ma jok bre.

porodični ljudi.
G r o f G r o f 22:06 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

mlekac
Jelica Greganović
Kakve veze to sve ima sa ovom pricom?

Princi je bio sarkastičan. I to je sve.

Sorry, ne funkcionise mi mozak najbolje - visa sila.


Ja svoj nisam ni uključio ali ipak mi sve jasno.
Naci-zilotsko-patriotskoj sekti potrebni su slabi neprijatelji da se pohvali svojim mišićima. Pedere su sredili pa sad krenuli na čišćenje Srbije od Amerikanaca. Prisiljen sam da reagujem jer će možda sledeći biti oni koji vežu kosu u rep, a onda sam na.ebao....
mlekac mlekac 22:21 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

AlexDunja
Vikinzi!


Kaze mi Zmu, mozda je ipak Saruman umesto prste?
freehand freehand 22:30 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

G r o f
Prisiljen sam da reagujem jer će možda sledeći biti oni koji vežu kosu u rep, a onda sam na.ebao....

I u crnoj košulji sa čudnim amblemima po rukavima?
Saće, samo da ga isteraju s Kosova.
Al taj je tvoj, šta si se uplašio?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:35 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Al taj je tvoj, šta si se uplašio?

free, prijateljski predlog:
ne diraj mi grofa
nemaš dovoljno informacija o njemu,
a sa mnom ne voliš da se kačiš
maksa83 maksa83 22:37 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

I u crnoj košulji sa čudnim amblemima po rukavima?
Saće, samo da ga isteraju s Kosova.

freehand freehand 22:49 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

nemaš dovoljno informacija o njemu,
a sa mnom ne voliš da se kačiš

Uuuu... Dotle došlo?!



freehand freehand 22:54 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

maksa83
I u crnoj košulji sa čudnim amblemima po rukavima?
Saće, samo da ga isteraju s Kosova.


AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:55 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

pa ti vidi:)
freehand freehand 22:58 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

AlexDunja
pa ti vidi:)

Jel znaš šta stanar kaže Iliji?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 23:03 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!


Jel znaš šta stanar kaže Iliji?

ma ne sećam se. i zaista se samo zezam,
ali grof je napravio najbolju skulpturu ikada na blogu
koja se zvala švaler u ormaru, i ja sam sada htela da je postavim ovde
ali je on promenio svoj sajt i te fotke nema,
kaz, upomoč
znam da imaš negde u arhivi!

ps. izvinjavam se svima zbog slovnih grešaka, nestale mi baterije na tastauri
pa kucam na laptopu, a to ne umem, sorry
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 23:14 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

koja se zvala švaler u ormaru, i ja sam sada htela da je postavim ovde
ali je on promenio svoj sajt i te fotke nema,


Bi li te ovo maličak utešilo? Ljubimec iz omare

AlexDunja AlexDunja 23:27 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

uvek podvališ predina:)))
naravno da može,
al nek neko nađe ono grofovo čudo,

aj ti grofe;(
freehand freehand 23:48 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

AlexDunja
uvek podvališ predina:)))
naravno da može,
al nek neko nađe ono grofovo čudo,

aj ti grofe;(

Ma ok bre, tvoje uzbuđenje i Grofova pojava mi svedoče da je u pitanju nešto epohalno i monumentalno!
Da nisu mrdalice?

Ili je od Vršačkog brega napravio Maunt Rašmor, sa Tominim likom?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 23:51 01.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Da nisu mrdalice?

ma jok:)
bolje.
G r o f G r o f 11:50 02.10.2013

Re: Sine!

Ma ok bre, tvoje uzbuđenje i Grofova pojava mi svedoče da je u pitanju nešto epohalno i monumentalno!



Nakon ovog uvoda moram postaviti ovu...



Joj Dunjo nemam sad vremena da tražim Švalera u ormaru...
freehand freehand 12:00 02.10.2013

Re: Sine!

G r o f
Ma ok bre, tvoje uzbuđenje i Grofova pojava mi svedoče da je u pitanju nešto epohalno i monumentalno!



Nakon ovog uvoda moram postaviti ovu...



Joj Dunjo nemam sad vremena da tražim Švalera u ormaru...

Buzga, Čovek-igla.


mlekac mlekac 13:02 02.10.2013

Re: Sine!

G r o f
Ma ok bre, tvoje uzbuđenje i Grofova pojava mi svedoče da je u pitanju nešto epohalno i monumentalno!



Nakon ovog uvoda moram postaviti ovu...



Joj Dunjo nemam sad vremena da tražim Švalera u ormaru...


Konacno glava na pravom mestu!
G r o f G r o f 20:14 02.10.2013

Re: Sine!

freehand
G r o f
Ma ok bre, tvoje uzbuđenje i Grofova pojava mi svedoče da je u pitanju nešto epohalno i monumentalno!



Nakon ovog uvoda moram postaviti ovu...



Joj Dunjo nemam sad vremena da tražim Švalera u ormaru...

Buzga, Čovek-igla.




Nije čovek igla nego Mutun, rimski, predhrišćanski bog braka. Predstavljala ga je skulpturica sa udom u prirodnoj veličini i rimljanke su prve bračne noći pomoću te skulpture nevinost poklanjale Mutunu.
A ovo je skuptura koju spominje AD...




evo još jedna kad sam već u trol fazonu...





Jelena Pavlović Jelena Pavlović 21:38 01.10.2013

Sve je ovo jako tuzno

Svet je generalno otisao u ....krasni.
oskar-z-wild oskar-z-wild 23:01 01.10.2013

Re: Sve je ovo jako tuzno

Ne treba generalizovati.
blogov_kolac blogov_kolac 23:29 01.10.2013

osnovno i sveto pravilo

Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 08:55 02.10.2013

Re: osnovno i sveto pravilo

Ovo mi je noćas stiglo u inbox na fb.

Those are questions that would helps us a great deal. We want to present the Culture Exchange, its members and the Family International in the most appropriate way. If you think that some of the questions are too personal or if you are not comfortable answering them, you do not have to answer them. We only ask you to be truthful, honest and detailed in your answers. We believe that the above questions can be answered in a time frame of three days. If you should need more time, please contact us. We would like to inform you that the answers you provide will be used in the second part of the article.
Thank you very much for your time!
Sincerely,
Teleprompter Editorial Staff


Dear founding members of the Culture Exchange,
As we are preparing to publish the second part of the article on Teleprompter, we would like you to answer a couple of questions in order to clarify any ambiguities.
Some of the questions pertain to particular memebrs of the Culture Exchange and others pertain to the group as a whole.
1. @Anna Powdril – In you interview with RTV you claim that "you understand the situation in this country". Would you be so kind to explain the situation in Serbia that you understand? What situation do you understand and how did you come to that conclusion?
2. @Simon Wilson – It has come to our attention that you had drawn a picture where a "huge woman" is stomping on the Svetozar Miletic monument in the center of Novi Sad. We would like to know if you know the history of Svetozar Miletic and what he and his monument represent? If yes, please tell us what you know. Also, please tell us what kind of emotions would arise if someone were to come to your country, to your town and draw a similar picture? Do you think it is fair and friendly to come to a foreign city, take up residence, become accepted by the community and present yourself as someone who is here to better life in Novi Sad and draw a picture that suggests the opposite?
3. @Evdoxia Seitanidou – It has come to our attention that you use the name Thoxa on all public websites and promotional material. Why is there a need to use different names? Are you aware that misrepresentation is a criminal offence in Serbia? What is your legal name?
4. @All – Could you all please tell us, in detail, about your affiliation with Geoffrey (Andrew) and Anna Wormus? When did your cooperation with them and their organization Healing Hearts Balkans start? How did you get in touch with them? Could you tell us exactly what places, institutions and schools had you visited with them? Also, could you please describe, in detail, what you had done during visits to schools, hospitals and similar institutions? We have pictures to document some of the visits to hospitals and schools.
5. @Anna Powdrill – In one interview you claim that you had come to Serbia with the help of a humanitarian organization. Could you please tell us the name of that humanitarian organization? When had you started volunteering for that particular organization? What activities had you engaged in during your visit with that particular humanitarian organization?
6. @Simon Wilson – Could you please tell us more about your organization New Bottle Radicals? What does the name exactly mean and why had you chosen that particular name? Where is/was the organization registered and what were its main activities? Why is there no internet site where we could find more information about the organization? If it is closed, why is it closed? If it is still active, where is it active and could you describe the main activities of the organization?
7. @Simon Wilson – It has come to our attention that you posted a video on Viddler under the name “Exit 2008 – The Family International – New Bottle Radicals”. We would like to know why had the video disappeared? Also, could you tell us about you visit to Novi Sad in 2008 with the Family International? Could you please tell us about your dealings with the Christian organization the Family International? Are you or have you been a member of the Family International? If yes, could you tell us about your activities in the TFI? If no, could you please tell us about your affiliation with the TFI during your visit to Novi Sad in 2008 and New Bottle Radicals?
8. @Simon Wilson – Could you please explain your motivation to draw a picture with the logo of the Family International? What does the picture represent? Who was the inspiration behind the picture of the naked woman on the bicycle? Are you aware of the controversial past of the Family International?
9. @All – Could you all please confirm or reject your membership in the Christian organization the Family International? If your response to Danilo Redzepovic you claim that some of the member have been born into the Family International. Could you tell us which founding members of Culture Exchange were born into the Family? Do those members still hold a membership with that Christian organization? If they do not hold membership with the Family, could you tell us when they gave up their membership and why? Have they experienced abuse of any kind during their childhood in the Family? Would you say that they were part of the Second Generation of the Family?
10. @All – Could you please tell us why you decided to live in Novi Sad? How long are you planning to stay in Novi Sad? Could you describe you future plans?
11. @All – We have been in contact with the Family International Information Desk in London for the past week. They were not able to confirm or reject your membership in the Family. They claim that they have no connections with the members of Culture Exchange. In your response you admitted that some of the members are in some way connected with the Family through their parents. We would like you to comment on that. In other words, tell us your opinion based on why the Family Information Desk refused to neither confirm nor reject your claims in your response to Danilo Redzepovic.
12. @Former owners of the Early Birds Kids Club – Could you please give us the names of the former owners of the Early Birds Kids Club? When had the kindergarten closed down? Why was it closed down? For how long was it active? How many members did it have? What kind of activities had you organized for the children? Did you have legal permission from the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Serbia to operate a kindergarten?
13. @Anna Powdrill – We have recently come across your picture on the official Facebook page of the Family International (facebook.com/thefamilyinternational). Please tell us why your picture is located on their official Facebook page? Could you please tell us about your affiliation with Family? Have you ever participated in their humanitarian work? Where had you done humanitarian work and what kind of work had you done? Are you aware of the controversial past of the Family International?
14. @All – In your statements to various media outlets you claim that you have been getting threats. Could you please forward those threats to us? We would like to analyze their content and determine their authenticity. Have you reported those threats to the police? We contacted the police and they were not able to confirm that you had supplied documentation which prove your claims.
15. @All – We have come across various interviews where you claim that you are all volunteers and do not receive pay for your work. Could you tell us for whom you volunteer and based on what income do you manage to survive? We understand that Novi Sad is cheaper compared to the UK or the USA, but you still need to survive. Do you have signed volunteer contracts, if so, with whom?
16. @All – Could you confirm or reject the statement that you all live in a commune? In other words, do all of the members of the Culture Exchange live together?
Those are questions that would helps us a great deal. We want to present the Culture Exchange, its members and the Family International in the most appropriate way. If you think that some of the questions are too personal or if you are not comfortable answering them, you do not have to answer them. We only ask you to be truthful, honest and detailed in your answers. We believe that the above questions can be answered in a time frame of three days. If you should need more time, please contact us. We would like to inform you that the answers you provide will be used in the second part of the article.
Thank you very much for your time!
Sincerely,
Teleprompter Editorial Staff
Dear Danilo,

I don't mind answering any questions about my life, I am a normal 24 year old girl, however because of the obvious intent of your writing to hurt us and the way you slandered us, I do not feel comfortable to answer any of your questions, I hope you understand, we are normal people trying to operate a business in a legal way.

Thank you

Dear Anna Powrdill,

We are very saddened by the fact that you are not willing to cooperate with us. If you strongly believe that we have published information that was incorrect or has "slandered" you in any way, we urge you to refute any of those claims and provide sold proof that we had been wrong. In your response to our Editor-in-Chief Danilo Redzepovic, you invited anyone who has any questions to contact you. We did that, but you refused to cooperate with us. It is common practice and in your best interest to refute any "allegations" that you deem untrue. Having mentioned that, we have to inform you that we have gathered information needed for the second article ourselves from independent sources. We will publish that information and we will also publish your latest answer to us as a response to our inquiry for further information.

Thank you very much for you cooperation.

Sincerely,
TELEPROMPTER Editorial Staff


uros_vozdovac uros_vozdovac 09:02 02.10.2013

Re: osnovno i sveto pravilo

Jbt...

a da propitamo malo teleporter mi malo, a? Baš me zanima jel bi nam odgovorili ko s kim živi, od "dopisnika" i "osoblja", koliko je semenki pojeo dok je gledao Boj na Kosovu 1991. ali u broj ne u gram, i tako to
Neues aus der Nachbarschaft Neues aus der Nachbarschaft 09:08 02.10.2013

Re: osnovno i sveto pravilo

Ko su ovi debili? Ovo nisu pitanja nego isledjivanje - i to ono krcunovsko! Stvarno bi bilo zanimljivo da se zna ko stoji iza ovo teleportera.
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 09:10 02.10.2013

Re: osnovno i sveto pravilo

Ja sam odradila poprilično intervjua u životu svom, ali ovakav u crevca, nisam...jer nisam nikad našla nekoga ko bi za moj intervju odvojio bar pola novine ili 16,5m sajta.
Neues aus der Nachbarschaft Neues aus der Nachbarschaft 09:22 02.10.2013

Re: osnovno i sveto pravilo

Pa to, ni ne zvuci kao intervju nego kao isledjivanje. A cini se da autorima isledjivanja ne nedostaje vestine u sprovodjenju istog.
skyspoter skyspoter 10:00 02.10.2013

Cultural Exchange

je deo Family International.

Wikipedia:
The Family International (TFI), formed as the Children of God (COG) and later named Family of Love and the Family, is a religious group often referred to as a cult (such as by academics Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi[1] and John Huxley[2]) started in 1968 in Huntington Beach, California, United States, with many of its early converts drawn from the hippie movement

Site: The Family International
kleinemutter kleinemutter 14:50 02.10.2013

pitaju svašta jašta

Mene je jedna novinarka pitala odakle mi pare da lečim dete.

Kad sa stolice nisam pala.

Bolje da me je pitala odakle mi bolesno dete. Pa otišla , pa propitala one tamo u Narodnom Frontu.

Imala bi bolji prilog.
Bojan Budimac Bojan Budimac 15:36 02.10.2013

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Policijska uprava u Novom Sadu saopštila je da je podnela, 27. septembra, zahtev za pokretanje prekršajnog postupka protiv državljanina Sjedinjenih Američkih Država, Sajmona Vilsona (1982), zbog toga što je boravio u Srbiji, suprotno razlozima zbog kojih mu je bio odobren boravak i zbog toga što nije prijavio promenu adrese boravišta, u roku od 24 časa, čime je prekršio odredbe Zakona o strancima.

Vilsonu je, naime, boravak odobren po osnovu volontiranja u Udruženju “Kulturna razmena“, sa sedištem u Veterniku, a on je osnovao Privredno društvo za trgovinu i usluge, sa sedištem u Novom Sadu i radio u njemu. Presudom Prekršajnog suda u Novom Sadu, Vilson je oglašen krivim i osuđen na novčanu kaznu u iznosu od 15.000 dinara. Zbog toga mu je, shodno Zakonu o strancima, otkazan boravak u Republici Srbiji i zabranjen povratak u našu zemlju, do 31. marta 2015. godine.

Po osnovu istog Zakona, 30. septembra podnet je zahtev za pokretanje prekršajnog postupka i protiv grčke državljanke Evdoksije Seitanidu (1981), zbog toga što nije prijavila promenu adrese boravišta, u roku od 24 časa. Presudom Prekršajnog suda u Novom Sadu, grčka državljanka je oglašena krivom i osuđena na novčanu kaznu u iznosu od 3.000 dinara, ali joj nije izrečena mera otkaza boravka u Republici Srbiji.

Linak
predatortz predatortz 15:53 02.10.2013

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Vilsonu je, naime, boravak odobren po osnovu volontiranja u Udruženju “Kulturna razmena“, sa sedištem u Veterniku, a on je osnovao Privredno društvo za trgovinu i usluge, sa sedištem u Novom Sadu i radio u njemu. Presudom Prekršajnog suda u Novom Sadu, Vilson je oglašen krivim i osuđen na novčanu kaznu u iznosu od 15.000 dinara. Zbog toga mu je, shodno Zakonu o strancima, otkazan boravak u Republici Srbiji i zabranjen povratak u našu zemlju, do 31. marta 2015. godine.



Dakle, zloupotrebio uslovbe boravka. Rad na crno se uvek kažnjava deportacijom.
uros_vozdovac uros_vozdovac 16:02 02.10.2013

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predatortz

Dakle, zloupotrebio uslovbe boravka. Rad na crno se uvek kažnjava deportacijom.



Red je red, a jed je jed. A teleporteror je puka koincidencija i zamajavanje dokonih jel` da?

Ma ne, nema tu ničeg, puko poštovanje zakona.
predatortz predatortz 16:07 02.10.2013

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uros_vozdovac
predatortz

Dakle, zloupotrebio uslovbe boravka. Rad na crno se uvek kažnjava deportacijom.



Red je red, a jed je jed. A teleporteror je puka koincidencija i zamajavanje dokonih jel` da?

Ma ne, nema tu ničeg, puko poštovanje zakona.


Čekaj, zar nije bitno poštovanje zemlje domaćina i njenih zakona? Ako nije, što nama prete uvođenjem viza zbog azilanata?
uros_vozdovac uros_vozdovac 16:11 02.10.2013

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predatortz
uros_vozdovac
predatortz

Dakle, zloupotrebio uslovbe boravka. Rad na crno se uvek kažnjava deportacijom.



Red je red, a jed je jed. A teleporteror je puka koincidencija i zamajavanje dokonih jel` da?

Ma ne, nema tu ničeg, puko poštovanje zakona.


Čekaj, zar nije bitno poštovanje zemlje domaćina i njenih zakona? Ako nije, što nama prete uvođenjem viza zbog azilanata?


Ma sve bi bilo okay da nije tog teleportera, kažem ti. On kvari sliku.
Da je samo zakon u pitanju - nikom ništa, ali ne ide i zakon i teleteroror pa majku mu nismo vesla sisali ili oca Tadeja slušali.
predatortz predatortz 16:15 02.10.2013

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uros_vozdovac
predatortz
uros_vozdovac
predatortz

Dakle, zloupotrebio uslovbe boravka. Rad na crno se uvek kažnjava deportacijom.



Red je red, a jed je jed. A teleporteror je puka koincidencija i zamajavanje dokonih jel` da?

Ma ne, nema tu ničeg, puko poštovanje zakona.


Čekaj, zar nije bitno poštovanje zemlje domaćina i njenih zakona? Ako nije, što nama prete uvođenjem viza zbog azilanata?


Ma sve bi bilo okay da nije tog teleportera, kažem ti. On kvari sliku.
Da je samo zakon u pitanju - nikom ništa, ali ne ide i zakon i teleteroror pa majku mu nismo vesla sisali ili oca Tadeja slušali.


A da li ti je palo na pamet da je boravišna viza došla kao kec na desetku, da se javno ne čačka negi drugi segment njihovog rada?

uros_vozdovac uros_vozdovac 16:21 02.10.2013

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predatortz


A da li ti je palo na pamet da je boravišna viza došla kao kec na desetku, da se javno ne čačka negi drugi segment njihovog rada?



Pa da ti pošteno kažem i nije mi palo na pamet, ali kad spomenu da razmotrim...

Ma opet mi teleport sliku kvari, i manira istraživačkog "novinarstva" koje neguje. I manir teksta. I ciljna grupa kojoj se teleportuje. Sve mi to sliku kvari.

Ali me jedna stvar raduje, što čak i ti ovim pitanjem priznaješ da je nešto drugo u pitanju od pukog poštovanja propisa, što nas dvojicu vodi na isti posao, na traženje odgovora šta je majkmu problem?

A dal` je teleport odgovor na pitanje? Vaseljenska? Facebook reporter (da i to ima, i baš se tako zove, naime, ciljna grupa voli fejsbuk, pa će ciljnoj grupi pisanje fejsbukreportera delovati uverljivije)
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 16:25 02.10.2013

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Ma sve bi bilo okay da nije tog teleportera, kažem ti. On kvari sliku.

Fakat kvari, potpuno se slažem.
Ali je kvari i Vilsonova gornja tvrdnja da ih sve proteruju.
predatortz predatortz 16:30 02.10.2013

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Jelica Greganović
Ma sve bi bilo okay da nije tog teleportera, kažem ti. On kvari sliku.

Fakat kvari, potpuno se slažem.
Ali je kvari i Vilsonova gornja tvrdnja da ih sve proteruju.


Mnogo toga tu ne štima...

U svakom slučaju, prekršaj postoji i sankcionisan je u skladu sa zakonom. A što se pisanja o sektaškom delovanju tiče, tu satisfakciju mogu da traže na sudu. Što reče Jelica, ne deportuju ih sve.
stefan.hauzer stefan.hauzer 16:50 02.10.2013

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Mnogo toga tu ne štima...

Priča je falična sa obe strane i to je ono što mene najviše zamara.
highshalfbooze highshalfbooze 17:09 02.10.2013

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predatortz
U svakom slučaju, prekršaj postoji i sankcionisan je u skladu sa zakonom. A što se pisanja o sektaškom delovanju tiče, tu satisfakciju mogu da traže na sudu. Što reče Jelica, ne deportuju ih sve.


Ti se šališ ili zaista ne vidiš?

Ako su već tražili nepravilnosti, zašto onda nisu ispitali zbog čega "Teleprompter" nije registrovan kao glasilo? Ili pojednostavljeno, zbog čega Teleprompter radi na crno? Ko uređuje to "glasilo"? Ko je vlasnik? I sva druga pitanja u sitna crevca...
Kad je poštovanje zakona, onda da se poštuje...

Šta kažeš, satisfakciju da potraže na sudu? Da isteruju pravdu u zemlji koja se bavi proterivanjem veštica? I u kojoj očigledno zakoni za neke važe, a za neke i ne važe.
Duhovit si ti vrlo...

Dopuna: A i Vaseljenska tv je registrovana u vaseljeni. I kako su pretili novinaru kad može jedino Sv Petar da ih nahvata.
predatortz predatortz 17:22 02.10.2013

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Ako su već tražili nepravilnosti, zašto onda nisu ispitali zbog čega "Teleprompter" nije registrovan kao glasilo? Ili pojednostavljeno, zbog čega Teleprompter radi na crno? Ko uređuje to "glasilo"? Ko je vlasnik? I sva druga pitanja u sitna crevca...



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Dakle, udruženje je uredno registrovano u APR, a Telepromter je njihov portal.
highshalfbooze highshalfbooze 17:29 02.10.2013

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Dakle, udruženje je uredno registrovano u APR, a Telepromter je njihov portal.


Ko je pomenuo udruženje?

Jesil ti čitao Zakon o javnom informisanju?

Probistri malo << Link
freehand freehand 17:34 02.10.2013

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predatortz

Vilsonu je, naime, boravak odobren po osnovu volontiranja u Udruženju “Kulturna razmena“, sa sedištem u Veterniku, a on je osnovao Privredno društvo za trgovinu i usluge, sa sedištem u Novom Sadu i radio u njemu. Presudom Prekršajnog suda u Novom Sadu, Vilson je oglašen krivim i osuđen na novčanu kaznu u iznosu od 15.000 dinara. Zbog toga mu je, shodno Zakonu o strancima, otkazan boravak u Republici Srbiji i zabranjen povratak u našu zemlju, do 31. marta 2015. godine.



Dakle, zloupotrebio uslovbe boravka. Rad na crno se uvek kažnjava deportacijom.

Ne baš. Kažnjava se kad je nadležni zadrt, budala, ili kad postupa striktno po zakuonu u skladu sa nalogom od gore.
Jelica Greganović Jelica Greganović 17:40 02.10.2013

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