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What's Really Unique About Serbia? Top-Rated YouTube Video is Clueless. Top 10 List + Your Suggestions?

On Sunday night, a couple of local friends stopped by our little house in Sombor, Serbia with their 13 year old daughter.   After half an hour of polite attention, she began to slump in her chair, bored, bored, bored with all the grownups chatter.  "Rosemary, I bet she would like to play on the Internet.  Show her your computer," my husband ordered.  Armed with a plateful of chocolate cookies, I led her into my home office to go online.  

She honestly had no idea what to do online (something unimaginable in a 13 year old US girl but typical of her peers here I've found).  So I showed her B92, Belgrade 2.0 and Krstarica which are about the only Serb language sites I know.  After 20 minutes or so she came out and listlessly joined us again.  The Internet, it appears, was awfully boring for a fashionable Serb 13 year old.  

Challenged, I got up again and this time went straight to YouTube and typed "Serbia" into the search box.  Surely there had to be something of interest.  Well, there really isn't alot unless you dig awfully deep.  The vast majority of results were either about Eurovision, sports, or Balkan wars.  Blah.

Here, in fact, is one of the very, very few videos that showed up under the general keyword "serbia" that was  anything the Serbian tourist  board might be happy about:

Since it was posted in November 2006, the video's been viewed more than 44,000 times, given a four-star rating by viewers, and gotten rave reviews online.  However, both my 13 year old friend and I were deeply disappointed by it.

We both felt it missed the point of what is worthwhile, and even remotely unique about Serbia.  A whole bunch of photos of mainly buildings is not unique.  It's not branding.  It's not special.  Every country has lots of buildings, some of them old, some of them lovely.  And most countries have some bits of water and greenery.  Big Deal.

I don't want to knock the maker of the video too harshly because he or she at least tried to create a positive video and hey, it's pretty popular.  I've never posted a video to YouTube so who am I to critique anyway?  

However, the whole situation made me realize yet again how little knowledge or perhaps appreciation Serbs have for what is special and unique about their country. So, here is my proposal -- I would like to start a list of things that are unique and special about Serbia here.  Most of you readers know far more than I do on this subject, so your contributions would be very much appreciated.  To start things off, here's my top 10 which you may find stupid, but at least it's honest (in no particular order):

1. Turbofolk - this is first because my 13 year old friend said it should be and she was very passionate on the subject (much to her parents' amused horror.)

2. Socializing - it's nearly impossible to be lonely here the way most Americans are lonely.

3. Vojvodina earth - possibly the best farm land in Europe.  Incredible sod for gardening.  Rich, brown, and oh so very deep.

4. Posture - Incredible, I have never seen so many men, women and children alike with near-perfect posture walking around anywhere in my life.  Posture may sound like a silly thing to praise, but a beautiful girl can turn instantly ugly if she has bad posture.

5.  Chess & mathematics - Serbs have unusually clever minds for this type of thinking, including computer programming.

6. Natural spas - I've been told there are more natural hot water spas in Serbia than anywhere else in Europe.

7. Orthodox monasteries - the art, the architecture, the perfect placement within the landscape.  These monks are/were artists.

8. Party On Belgrade! - serious people (and anyone over 25) may bemoan this image, but Belgrade is fast becoming second only to old New Orleans in party image.   

9. Jelen Pivo - I know it's the old fart's beer, but I like it, I really like it.  If that makes me an old fart then so be it.

10. Tomatoes - Anyone who is serious about tomato eating will agree with me.  Serb tomatoes beat Croatian tomatoes massively, completely, dramatically, hands down.

Ok that's my top 10 ... what are yours? 





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skyspoter  14:52 25.09.2007
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the most unique thing about Serbia

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are the wars.

this is our only export - and I must admit - very successful.
   
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DUNADAN  15:05 25.09.2007
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Re: the most unique thing about Serbia

you're so full of shit.
   
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Srđan Kusovac  16:02 25.09.2007
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Re: the most unique thing about Serbia

A kissogram is a message delivered via a kiss. Usually arranged as a fun surprise for a person for a special occasion, celebration, specific day, etc. Message deliverers can be hired either by themselves, or as part of an agency. The deliverer also usually wears fancy clothing.
(Wikipedia)

   
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skyspoter  16:26 25.09.2007
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Re: the most unique thing about Serbia

hahahaha

very good!

the spectator ruls!
   
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Urosh  16:32 25.09.2007
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Re: the most unique thing about Serbia

The most unique things about Serbia are plum brandy (sliwowitz), Guca (unfortunately) and Leskovac kebab.
And there things are the ones that should be developed and emphasized by Serbia in its Euro-Atlantic integration, because the unity od differences is what EU is based on.
I may not like the things I have just pointed out, but it is the fact that people from EU will not drink Cassis de Dijon or Bailey's but Shliwowitz and they will not eat French or Italian dishes, but they will go to Srpska kafana or Chobanov odmor or Duff to eat genuine Serbian dish.
Considering socilizing-I would like to say that people in Serbia socialize too much, but work less than they should.

   
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tnosugar  09:01 26.09.2007
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a NATOgram

   
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Modesty Blaise  15:05 25.09.2007
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.

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We both felt it missed the point of what is worthwhile, and even remotely unique about Serbia. A whole bunch of photos of mainly buildings is not unique. It's not branding. It's not special. Every country has lots of buildings, some of them old, some of them lovely. And most countries have some bits of water and greenery. Big Deal.


try this one:


   
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dunjica  15:15 25.09.2007
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Tomatoes

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Serb tomatoes beat Croatian tomatoes massively, completely, dramatically, hands down.


Only Croat?!! Have you ever eaten e.g. Dutch tomatoes? There is even a joke about it:

Which are the FOUR states of water aggregation?
ice
fluid
gaseous state
AND
Dutch tomatoes
   
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jankovicf  15:42 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

dunjica
Serb tomatoes beat Croatian tomatoes massively, completely, dramatically, hands down.


Only Croat?!! Have you ever eaten e.g. Dutch tomatoes? There is even a joke about it:

Which are the FOUR states of water aggregation?
ice
fluid
gaseous state
AND
Dutch tomatoes


I know! I've been to Holland and tried their vegetables and they're disgusting! especially tomatoes!

I guess the standard makes it easier to survive the bad potatoes... :-)
   
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jankovicf  15:43 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

not potatoes tomatoes.
Sorry :-)
   
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dunjica  16:30 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

not potatoes tomatoes.
Sorry :-)


Don´t worry, they taste about the same ;-))
   
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Virtuelni Vasilije  16:38 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

Dunjica
Only Croat?!!


Rosemary, it is not important for us to have good tomatoes at all - they could be second worst in the whole world.

Only important thing for us is to beat Croatian tomatoes!!!;) :))))))))
   
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dunjica  16:41 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

Heeeey, VV, that´s the point! (But only Croats could recognise it between the lines ;-)))
   
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Virtuelni Vasilije  16:52 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

hehe that is the reason we are brothers and sisters - we understand each other ;)

ps. ok, Croatian quinces (dunjica) beat ours ... :-)
   
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dunjica  17:00 25.09.2007
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Re: Tomatoes

VV, therefore

for you (skipping quince brandy for good purpose).
   
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oldtajmer  15:25 25.09.2007
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Youtube

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If you were looking for something fun on the net for a 13-yr old American girl, would you type in "USA" or "America" into youtube? And how many fun things do you think would pop up?

Try "Ceca" next time ;-)

...or ask her what music she likes! Seriously, do you have any kids?? What 13-yr old you know is interested in tourist bureau videos?

I think this is more of a Kid-Adult blog than a Serbian-American blog.

Love your writing style, tho :)

Take care!
   
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oldtajmer  15:29 25.09.2007
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Re: 2%

Oh, and one more thing - I am not sure where you got your 2% number (previous blog), but I think since the wars of the 90's many more than that have heard of Serbia. In fact, having the experience of living in the States in the 80's, 90's and 2000's I can tell you that in the 80's the "where are you from?" question was usually followed by a blank stare, whereas in this century I hardly ever hear "oh, must be very cold there!" (Siberia) anymore :)
   
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Rosemary Bailey Brown  15:42 25.09.2007
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Re: Youtube

"Ceca" was indeed the very next search we tried and then she was awfully happy! I just started with "Serbia" to see what in general was out there... and then we moved on to what was evidently the good stuff.
   
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Jelena Pavlović  16:53 25.09.2007
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Re:Youtube

There is still a huge difference between the city and rural population. It seems to me that the 13 year old you had been visited by had deep roots in the one of the villages surrounded by the big plain of Vojvodina.
   
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oldtajmer  19:23 25.09.2007
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Re: Re:Youtube

Even among the urban youth (dare I say "elite"), youtube is not as popular since still not enough kids have access to high-speed internet.
   
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Unfuckable  23:29 25.09.2007
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Re: 2%

Oh, and one more thing


...just type "moron" in Google : ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
   
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silicuda  10:23 26.09.2007
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re

   
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Lun  15:30 25.09.2007
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Something really unique

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deki_swe  20:21 27.09.2007
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Re: Something really unique

Kakve fotke...svaka čast!
   
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Mark Pullen  15:42 25.09.2007
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Top Ten

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This is more of a Belgrade top-ten than a Serbian one, al' 'ajde.

1. Fastfood -- the best burgers on the planet.

2. Bums -- the best shaped rears on the planet.

3. Bands -- from EKV to Partibrejkers to Mistake-Mistake: eclectic, original, undiscovered.

4. Šljivovica -- it's a drink, it's a body rub, it's fuel.

5. Clubs -- from World Travellers to Šipražija to Plastik to Stefan Braun, Belgrade has a club to suit everyone's taste.

6. Restaurants -- my parents recently commented that they'd never had a bad meal when visiting Belgrade.

7. Hills -- Belgrade has more hills than Rome. Great if your a skateboarder, not so great if your wheelchair-bound.

8. Self confidence -- Serbs don't need to prove anything to anyone because they know they're ultimately capable of everything and, therefore, don't have to waste time proving anything.

9. Diaspora -- an army of Serbian international residents who are more nationalist than your average SRS voter. They'd love to see Serbia conquer the Balkans, but wouldn't dream of leaving their Chicago homes to join in the fighting.

10. Sport -- Serbia has more sporting clubs and sporting prowess than you can shake a stick at.
   
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AlexDunja  16:07 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten


9. Diaspora -- an army of Serbian international residents who are more nationalist than your average SRS voter. They'd love to see Serbia conquer the Balkans, but wouldn't dream of leaving their Chicago homes to join in the fighting.

alal vera!!
   
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adam weisphaut  16:15 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

AlexDunja

9. Diaspora -- an army of Serbian international residents who are more nationalist than your average SRS voter. They'd love to see Serbia conquer the Balkans, but wouldn't dream of leaving their Chicago homes to join in the fighting.

alal vera!!

Lepo ja kazem najbolje se Srbi bore...
   
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dunjica  16:17 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

9. Diaspora -- an army of Serbian international residents who are more nationalist than your average SRS voter. They'd love to see Serbia conquer the Balkans, but wouldn't dream of leaving their Chicago homes to join in the fighting.


Hahahaha, you got the point!
   
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Jelena Pavlović  17:09 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

This you call "fast food" is actually taking time to be prepared.
As of beautiful asses, did they have the price? Also the asses are in the advertisings of the best things about Serbia and Belgrade, beside the food.
And Diaspora, the sore point in our lives. It is a little different with the nationalists living abroad; the hard core nationalists are the ones whose pradede came form the old world.
   
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AlexDunja  19:22 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

adam weisphaut
AlexDunja

9. Diaspora -- an army of Serbian international residents who are more nationalist than your average SRS voter. They'd love to see Serbia conquer the Balkans, but wouldn't dream of leaving their Chicago homes to join in the fighting.

alal vera!!

Lepo ja kazem najbolje se Srbi bore...

cuti adame
dobro je dok se ameri ne dosete
   
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Jelena Pavlović  19:37 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

A sta ako smo se dosetili?:))
   
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DUNADAN  19:38 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

Lepo ja kazem najbolje se Srbi bore...


ti kazesh?

   
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AlexDunja  19:42 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

Jelena Pavlović
A sta ako smo se dosetili?:))

gospodzo,jelena, sorry
   
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adam weisphaut  19:47 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

DUNADAN
Lepo ja kazem najbolje se Srbi bore...


ti kazesh?


Sorry
Lepo ja citiram Duandan
   
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adam weisphaut  19:56 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

Jelena Pavlović
A sta ako smo se dosetili?:))

Onda
let's dance
   
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Rosemary Bailey Brown  20:29 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

Fantastic list - well done!
   
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Jelena Pavlović  23:04 25.09.2007
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Re: Top Ten

:)))))
   
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DejanOz  15:43 25.09.2007
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I don't want to be mean...

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1. Turbofolk
Oh, please. It's not also called turbefolk for nothing (turbe=Turkish word for 'tomb'). In place of that I would like to see the New Wave scene from the early 1980s (the second best in Europe, according to the New Musical Express). Well 1/3-rd of it (the other 2/3-rds going to Zagreb and Ljubljana).

2. Socializing
Yeah, right. Maybe if you're an American in Belgrade, then yes, You're a superstar, by the virtue of the fact you're speaking English with that accent we've all been conditioned to associate with all good things in life (it's called Hollywoodization, I think). Specifically Belgraders can be quite lonely, just as is the case in any other big city. Some elders die, and are only found out weeks later.

3. Vojvodina earth
It's exactly the same as the one across the borders in Hungary and Romania. It's rich, though.

4. Posture
I haven't really noticed that.

5. Chess & mathematics
"Unusally clever minds"... I don't remember many Serbs winning the World Chess Championships, then again I know nothing about chess (it's even worse with maths).

6. Natural spas
That may be, I guess if I retire in Serbia some day I may tell you more.

7. Orthodox monasteries
OK

8. Party On Belgrade!
I'm too old to care.

9. Jelen Pivo
That's not bad, especially for the price.

10. Tomatoes
It's not the tomatoes, it's the people who grow them... who's backs are crooked by the time they are 40. Dutch tomatoes may be airy, but nobody has to squat over them and talk to them nicely in order to get them to grow.
   
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Srki  15:45 25.09.2007
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couple of more

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...
n: Improvisation, almost everywhere and in everything, mainly to save some money, sometimes to show-off (this is probably not unique itself, but pushing the envelope I think is unique).

n+1: "I know the best" spirit (with most often poor results). This is not quite orthogonal with previous. We honestly deeply believe that we are better, smarter (or at least more cunning) and bolder then anybody else in the world - you should have seen me few nights ago screwing up parking lot signs after concert in my neighborhood, in front of very surprised parking service dudes, to get to highway quicker).

n+2: mooching. Or it's just me? ;-). When I go spelunking, almost everybody I caved with here in US learned to carry some extra food (and beer) for me :-).
...


   
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gogo  15:48 25.09.2007
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two for now :>

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kosančićev venac (a little bit of localpatriotism, what can i do.. :>>): google images
đavolja varoš: photos and world heritage
injoy! :>
   
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Urosh  22:16 25.09.2007
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Re: two for now :>

gogo
kosančićev venac

:)
   
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Dejan Bizinger  15:58 25.09.2007
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Unique about Serbia

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I agree about Vojvodina, however because of some political reasons Vojvodina can not develop even more.

I think that Hungary has more spas than Serbia and Finland. Hungary also doesn't have sea, but it is well known for spas.

Unique about Serbia is also a characteristic called "inat" I don't know the English word.

That "inat" is also very responsible for success of Serbian sport in different categories. Such a small country, so much success in sport.

Unique is also rakija/sljivovica (althought some other country filled the patent), burek, kajmak, maline...

BTW. About catchups, I also like it very much, but lately I use Mr. Heinz.
   
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Jukie  16:04 25.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia

Dejan Bizinger
Unique about Serbia is also a characteristic called "inat" I don't know the English word.That "inat" is also very responsible for success of Serbian sport in different categories.
It is called "spite" or "lack of reason" or I guess also "pigheadedness" (although I am not sure if the last one is precisely that)
   
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dunjica  16:24 25.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia

but lately I use Mr. Heinz.


It is MRS Teresa Heinz Kerry at the time, the spouse of the former presidental candidate John Kerry (dem. party).



;-)))
   
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Urosh  16:40 25.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia

Dejan Unique about Serbia is also a characteristic called "inat" I don't know the English word.That "inat" is also very responsible for success of Serbian sport in different categories. Such a small country, so much success in sport.Unique is also rakija/sljivovica (althought some other country filled the patent), burek, kajmak, maline...BTW. About catchups, I also like it very much, but lately I use Mr. Heinz.[/quote



1.Considering spite-I think that Ms.Bailey Brown wanted good things in Serbia to be emphasized, not negative and primitive.
2.Considering sports-Sport players became national heroes, instead of being professionals.
It is not a difference, it is idiotism.
3.Schliwowitz is a quite good merchandise, that should be emphasized and sold to the foreigners.
   
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Jelena Pavlović  17:12 25.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia

inat-spite, out of spite
   
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Rosemary Bailey Brown  20:32 25.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia

Oh you are correct - BUREK alone all by itself is worthy of a top ten. 1. Apple Burek, 2. Cheese Burek, 3. Cherry Burek, etc. etc.
   
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sheridan  07:50 26.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia

Rosemary Bailey Brown
Oh you are correct - BUREK alone all by itself is worthy of a top ten. 1. Apple Burek, 2. Cheese Burek, 3. Cherry Burek, etc. etc.


Shame it's nowhere near unique to Serbia though, so can hardly make it to your list:)
   
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Vladimir B.  10:27 27.09.2007
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Re: Unique about Serbia


Inat is a Turkish word and has entered several other languages, too (e.g. Greek "yinati"). It is NOT a Serbian word.

Promoting the "inat" as typically Serbian characteristic only shows lack of education, narrow-mindedness and inclination towards stereotypes, having nothing to do with Serbs indeed. I would rather say Serbs simply try to survive in ubiquituous poverty and under consecutive oppressive regimes and foreign threats. The fact they actually do is what is really amazing about them.

So to me, the unique things in Serbia are its people's humor, frankness and vigor that survive under every possible circumstances, and make the places liveable--among cruel state officers, mafia and patriarchal stubborness.
   
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Jukie  16:02 25.09.2007
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well,

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Rosemary wrote:
>1. Turbofolk - this is first because my 13 year old friend said it should be
>and she was very passionate on the subject (much to her parents' amused horror.)

Well, she would stop being my friend then and there, and would have to prove herself worthwhile by making a complete U-turn...
   
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blue rider  16:16 25.09.2007
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What the f.. ?

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I mean, guys and girls, Serbs, you are totally missing the point here. What Rose here wanted to say is that Serbians actually have no real touch with inner self, have no real clue about Serbian values and our culture and so on and so fort. So what do we have to say to the world? To explain, promote our country and ourselves?
And you blogers (I am ashamed) prove her point exactly. From stupid comments about wars, to even more stupid analysis whether Serbia has more or less spa's the Finland or Hungary!
The fact is, and Rose is saying it, WE DON'T KNOW HO WE ARE!
And most of us are a bunch of bitter fucks.
   
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DejanOz  16:32 25.09.2007
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Re: What the f.. ?

blue rider
And most of us are a bunch of bitter fucks.

Speak for yourself, mate.

And take it easy. Have some tomatoes.
   
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dunjica  16:44 25.09.2007
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And take it easy. Have some tomatoes.

Hahahahahaha...!

   
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bobo  16:55 25.09.2007
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1st place

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What would promote Serbia more than anything else is the absence of sense of guilt.
Wouldn't everyone want that?
   
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Urosh  17:02 25.09.2007
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bobo
What would promote Serbia more than anything else is the absence of sense of guilt.Wouldn't everyone want that?

Firstly, it shouldn't be the sense of guilt, but the sense of moral and political responsability.
The guilty ones are the criminals, i.d.the ones who committed the crimes.
We, as the citizens, cannot be guilty, but only politically and morally responsable.
But not to the West, but to the victims.
Secondly, the war, crimes, aggressions and appartheid should be separated from what Europeans and other foreingners expect to see and feel in Serbia, which is, at the same time, unique.


   
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DejanOz  17:07 25.09.2007
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Urosh
...unique.

Tell me, Urke, how do you feel today about the friendly people of Burma taking to the streets in democratic protests!! Doesn't it just warm the old ticker? Almost like in Kazakhstan!

Cheers
Indy :)
   
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bobo  17:15 25.09.2007
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Re: 1st place

Urosh
bobo
What would promote Serbia more than anything else is the absence of sense of guilt.Wouldn't everyone want that?

Firstly, it shouldn't be the sense of guilt, but the sense of moral and political responsability.
The guilty ones are the criminals, i.d.the ones who committed the crimes.
We, as the citizens, cannot be guilty, but only politically and morally responsable.
But not to the West, but to the victims.

I am NOT talking about politics, it's more on a personal level...
You get "screwed" everywhere you go and it's ok, also you can "screw" anyone and it's ok...
To make it more understandable for Americans ...it's something like Brooklyn attitude...you never know what to expect and everyone's used to it by now.
   
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Urosh  19:17 25.09.2007
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DejanOz

Urosh...unique.Tell me, Urke, how do you feel today about the friendly people of Burma taking to the streets in democratic protests!! Doesn't it just warm the old ticker? Almost like in Kazakhstan!CheersIndy :)

My dear friend, protests in Burma, which I support, have nothing to do with the present topic.

   
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Urosh  19:22 25.09.2007
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Re: 1st place

bobo

Urosh

boboWhat would promote Serbia more than anything else is the absence of sense of guilt.Wouldn't everyone want that?Firstly, it shouldn't be the sense of guilt, but the sense of moral and political responsability.The guilty ones are the criminals, i.d.the ones who committed the crimes.We, as the citizens, cannot be guilty, but only politically and morally responsable.But not to the West, but to the victims. I am NOT talking about politics, it's more on a personal level...You get "screwed" everywhere you go and it's ok, also you can "screw" anyone and it's ok...To make it more understandable for Americans ...it's something like Brooklyn attitude...you never know what to expect and everyone's used to it by now.

That is policy, too.
Because it is connected to the picture, being sent by us, citizens of Serbia.
   
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Vladimir B.  10:30 27.09.2007
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bobo
What would promote Serbia more than anything else is the absence of sense of guilt.
Wouldn't everyone want that?

Oh, yes.
   
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urbanosaurus  17:41 25.09.2007