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bauer. RSS / 16.02.2010. u 08:28

Utorak?  aaagh!  Nema veze, samo da ovako pržimo, ako ikada omatorimo...

 



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ssvetlana92 ssvetlana92 15:53 19.02.2010

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Plušenko je ipak prvi, po meni!
margos margos 16:13 19.02.2010

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Alava i Pluši:

margos margos 16:20 19.02.2010

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To za Džonija Vira nije slučajno, naime on je tokom one priče oko lobiranja preko mejlova jedini iz američkog tima istupio i osudio celu stvar, zahtevao je da se dotični sudija kazni tako da mu se oduzme licenca za međunarodna takmičenja, a ujedno je objasnio i da su krađe bodova na interpretaciji u klizanju sasvim normalna stvar. To je i platio, u oba programa, pokrali su ga i na kratkom. On je i izgledao kao da je tako nešto očekivao, videli ste da se nije potresao uopšte.

Ipak, najveći tragičar u celoj priči je po meni Takahaši. U kratkom programu klizao je za klasu bolje od Lajsačeka, ali Lajsačeka sudije proguraše. Takahaši je pokazao kakav je klizač i time što je rizikovao sa 4ostrukim u slobodnom programu, bar je pokušao, respekt za to.
Da je Lajsaček bio realno ocenjen u kratkom, zlato bi video samo u prolazu, možda bi bio ugrožen i od Vira za medalju uopšte (da je i Vir ocenjen realno).

Da, kad imaš celu sliku - onda malo 'vamo muneš jednog, drugog poguraš, kod trećeg zažmuriš, kod četvrtog uzmeš u obzir i 'crno oko u glavi' - i slika izgleda ovako kako izgleda.

Amer je bio siguran u svom nastupu, potpuno kul. I imao je taj pobednički stav. Ne znam šta bi bilo da nije pobedio, da l bi se raspao, no nije sad ni važno.
margos margos 16:31 19.02.2010

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Sad videh jednu tvoju poruku od juče da si ceo dan u tripu da će da nameštaju ocene...
Alava Alava 19:17 19.02.2010

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margos
Sad videh jednu tvoju poruku od juče da si ceo dan u tripu da će da nameštaju ocene...

Ej, Margita, ja se evo odmorila, prežalila nepravdu i sad na netu nađoh nešto jako zanimljivo...(kao što rekoh ranije, o ovom skandaloznom suđenju će se još pričati)

Dragi drugari , Elvis Stojko dao je svoje viđenje onoga što gledasmo sinoć. Ja vas molim da pročitate ceo tekst, a boldovaću samo najbitnije, iako bukvalno ceo tekst treba da bude boldovan!


THE NIGHT THEY KILLED FIGURE SKATING




VANCOUVER, British Columbia –

Sorry, Evan Lysacek.

You’re a great skater and all.

But that wasn’t Olympic champion material.

In Thursday night’s men’s free skate, Lysacek skated slow and his jumps weren’t close to the technical ability of defending Olympic champion Evgeni Plushenko.

How can you be Olympic champion when you don’t even try the quad? If you’re going to take the quad out, why not take out another triple axel and just have more of the other stuff so the International Skating Union can make it more into an “art” recital.

Plushenko had a great performance. His footwork was great and maybe his spins weren’t quite as good as Lysacek’s, but it wasn’t that big of a difference. He also had a quad toe triple toe that wasn’t even attempted by anyone else. He did both triple axels, so all the jumps were there.

But the judges’ scoring was ridiculous.

Because of it, the sport took a step backward. Brian Boitano did the same thing, technically, in 1988. There are junior skaters who can skate that same program.

And the judges’ scoring probably killed figure skating because kids now are going to see this and say, “Oh, I don’t need a quad. I can just do great footwork for presentation marks and do a couple of nice spins and make it to Olympic champion.” With that type of scoring, you don’t have to risk it. You can play it safe and win gold.

In what other sports do you have to hold back in order to win?

The International Skating Union has taken the risk out of figure skating and it makes me sick.

If Plushenko had made some mistakes, then sure, maybe Lysacek deserves gold. But when you take the risk out of skaters’ programs, it doesn’t compute to me.

And it’s not a personal thing. I like Evan. But when you compare performances and have an outcome like this, the sport is going backward. And it hurts me to say it because I love this sport. But the judges made a mockery of it by giving Lysacek the gold.

I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade because it’s not the skaters’ fault. It’s the system. And the figure skating community wants to control who wins and who loses. And what it does is it makes the component score more valid than the jumps so it can control whatever it wants. And that’s exactly what happened Thursday night at Pacific Coliseum.

How can the sport be put back on the right path? I have no idea. I haven’t even thought about it. It’s not up to me. Because people at the ISU obviously seem to know what they’re doing. Well, they think they know what they’re doing.

For me, the outcome on Thursday night was disappointing.

A few more thoughts on the men’s free skate:

I thought Daisuke Takahashi was awesome. He tried the quad and he had the guts to go for it, and he should’ve been ahead of Lysacek in that aspect.

Johnny Weir was great. He should’ve been higher than sixth – above Patrick Chan, who was fifth. Weir outskated Chan. He might’ve skated a little bit slow but he went out there and did his stuff. I feel bad for him.

• People say I’m hammering certain skaters. I’m not. It’s the system I don’t like and if you say I am biased … I already said I am not a fan of Weir’s skating, but he skated well tonight and deserved to be ahead of Chan.

In addition, Takahiko Kozuka – my favorite skater – did not get the points he deserved. He skated great, had awesome spins, the best edges in the competition, was very close with the quad and did a ton of triples.

Figure skating gets no respect because of outcomes like this. More feathers, head-flinging and so-called step sequences done at walking speed – that’s what the system wants.

I am going to watch hockey, where athletes are allowed to push the envelope. A real sport.


link
Alava Alava 20:01 19.02.2010

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Takođe, Plušenkov trener Aleksej Mišin najavljuje istragu:

VANCOUVER, British Columbia – Russian figure skating chiefs were planning their own Crime Scene Investigation on Thursday night, as accusations of sporting robbery followed Evan Lysacek’s dramatic victory in the men’s long program at Pacific Coliseum.

The American star’s triumph sparked a furious reaction from Alexei Mishin, the coach of silver medalist Evgeni Plushenko, with Mishin claiming his athlete had been unfairly “robbed” of a second consecutive gold.

“This is nonsense,” Mishin told Yahoo! Sports. “It is wrong. It is criminal. How can it be like this? They are killing figure skating and taking it back 20 years. They have robbed him of his destiny.

“There is nothing we can do but we want to know what happened because this is not right. We will investigate. Someone needs to explain to me how this is possible. I cannot believe it.”

Mishin was disgusted that Lysacek was awarded an overall score of 257.67, enough to overcome his 0.55 deficit from the short program and push him ahead of Plushenko, the sport’s shining star.

Plushenko had previously claimed the quad and its variations are the future of figure skating. Mishin focused his accusations of thievery on the judging panel.

Any judge who thinks this is the right champion is a Cyclops,” Mishin said. “Without the quad, there is no difference between the men’s competition and the women’s. Why not let them skate together? Why not have it as a unisex competition in the Olympics?”
Alava Alava 20:09 19.02.2010

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Imamo čak i elemente Radovana III u celoj priči

- Drago mi je ja sam Stanislav.Znate, ja sam bogat...
- A ja sam postena!
- Dozvolite da vam poklonim ovu zlatnu grivnu od platine...

Zlatna grivna od platine :)
margos margos 20:31 19.02.2010

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Ovo kao da si ti napisala :)
AlexDunja AlexDunja 20:59 19.02.2010

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malla, hvala sto si prenela
ove reakcije:)

elvis je potpuno u pravu:)
i plushi, takodje..
Alava Alava 21:15 19.02.2010

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AlexDunja
malla, hvala sto si prenela
ove reakcije:)

elvis je potpuno u pravu:)
i plushi, takodje..


Ovo je sveukupno sramotno, meni je lično jako žao što se ovo dešava u jednom ovako lepom sportu.
Elvis me je potpuno oduševio, to što je ovako nastupio, pri tom priznavši da njegov Kanađanin uopšte nije dobar onoliko koliko su mu dale sudije, samo govori da je častan čovek. I Saša Koen je komentarisala da je šokirana ovakvom odlukom sudija.

margos
Ovo kao da si ti napisala :)


Hvala
Daleko sam ja od Elvisa Stojka... ali očigledno je očigledno.
AlexDunja AlexDunja 21:31 19.02.2010

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I Saša Koen je komentarisala da je šokirana ovakvom odlukom sudija.

fer od nje.
mirelarado mirelarado 21:35 19.02.2010

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Сад ми је некако лакше, пошто сам све ово прочитала. :)
Unfuckable Unfuckable 21:50 19.02.2010

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meni nije, pošto mi je jasno da se Mlada silno nasekirala.
A i ne znam gde je Brajović.
Nedostaje mi taj dedica, ponekad
Alava Alava 22:03 19.02.2010

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Inače, kad u google ukucate "plushenko r", prvi suggestion je "robbed"

Elem, još prljavštine izlazi na površinu, evo šta sam upravo našla:


(Plušenkova izjava)


"For someone to stand on top of the podium with the gold medal around his neck with just doing triple jumps, to me it's not progress, it's a regress because we've done triples 10 or even 20 years ago," Plushenko said.

"Just doing nice transitions and being artistic is not enough because figure skating is a sport, not a show," he said.

"Of all the men who had competed tonight, only two -- myself and (Japan's) Takahiro Kozuka (who finished eighth) -- were able to land a clean quad.

"Later, when I saw Kozuka I shook his hand and congratulated him, saying 'Well done'. I also have a lot of respect for (Japan's bronze medalist) Daisuke Takahashi for trying to attempt a quad. That's a sign of a (future) champion."

PLUSHENKO ROBBED

Plushenko, who came out of a 3-1/2-year retirement last month, said he was a victim of prejudicial judging.

"I did a great short program but didn't get the marks I deserved. When I asked why they told me I was skating early and they had to retain top marks for the last group," he said.

"Then, in the free program I was the last to skate, did everything clean and still didn't get the marks. That's prejudice. I thought I had done enough to get the gold but the judges gave it to someone else."


A ja lepo kažem da su krali još u kratkom...
njanja_de.manccini njanja_de.manccini 22:15 19.02.2010

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ceo dan koleginica , koja je iz Rusije visi na internetu i cita o ovoj pljacki. kaze they hate our guts! ne bi ja isla tako daleko, ali je ocigledno bilo da ima neka ujdurma da se Lajsacek promovise ko neki naj, naj skejter u Svetu i da se degradira Plusenko. jesi li ti Alava vec pomenula da Jony Weir je dobio tako slabe ocene jer je jedini javno rekao da onaj sudija koji je slao ono famozno pismo treba da se odstrani sa svih sudjenja?
njanja_de.manccini njanja_de.manccini 22:20 19.02.2010

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bas mi se svidja ovo:

Most Russian TV analysts and commentators said Plushenko was robbed of a deserved gold by the judges.
When Plushenko walked into the RTR studio in Vancouver, host Alexei Popov presented him with a symbolic medal.
"You already have one gold and one silver so here's a platinum medal for you," Popov told the skater. "You are the real champion."
Another commentator called the decision scandalous, in the same mould as judging controversies at the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.
"We'd seen this before. In 2002 Irina Slutskaya unfairly was placed second in the short programme so that Sarah Hughes could get a better shot at winning the gold," Alexei Vasilyev said.
Russia's Slutskaya, a favourite for the women's title in Salt Lake City, finished second behind American Hughes.
Incensed by what they thought was poor and biased judging, the Russians filed a protest, arguing Slutskaya had skated as well as, if not better than, Hughes. It was rejected.
"So what if Slutskaya lost?" asked the commentator.
"Who now remembers Hughes? Similarly, in a few years' time nobody will remember Lysacek while Plushenko would go down in history as one of the greatest of all time."

iz gardijana
Alava Alava 22:26 19.02.2010

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jesi li ti Alava vec pomenula da Jony Weir je dobio tako slabe ocene jer je jedini javno rekao da onaj sudija koji je slao ono famozno pismo treba da se odstrani sa svih sudjenja?

Da, taj link sam dala odmah posle kratkog programa u onom komentaru gde sam objašnjavala tu navodnu borbu oko stilova i to famozno pismo i lobiranje.

Eno, objasnio Pluši zašto su ga pokrali - jako malo para u USA daju na prenose klizanja (reče on ranije su davali 20 a sad samo 6 miliona dolara) pa im treba novo lice koje će da privuče ljude da gledaju klizanje, a samim tim i da digne cenu pravima prenosa. A gde ćeš bolje od olimpijskog šampiona koji je još pobedio jednog Plušenka?!
Plus je i veoma dobro plaćen maneken. Idealno za prodaju bilo kog proizvoda :)
Unfuckable Unfuckable 22:27 19.02.2010

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in a few years' time nobody will remember Lysacek while Plushenko would go down in history as one of the greatest of all time."

to ja zovem Pirovom pobedom, jbg: Sistem je nadjebao Talentovanog, prepoznatljivo.
I, kratkovido
Alava Alava 22:30 19.02.2010

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in a few years' time nobody will remember Lysacek while Plushenko would go down in history as one of the greatest of all time."


Ovo je toliko tačno...


Unfuckable Unfuckable 22:34 19.02.2010

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pa da: niko se neće sećati te tkzv "pobede" nego finala u kom je Genije - pokraden.
Toliko o pobedi.
Jebo pobedu kad se ne osećaš dobro posle nje.
njanja_de.manccini njanja_de.manccini 22:48 19.02.2010

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Da, taj link sam dala odmah posle kratkog programa u onom komentaru gde sam objašnjavala tu navodnu borbu oko stilova i to famozno pismo i lobiranje.

dobro je ja umalo nisam ubedila koleginicu da mi ona rekla to
Alava Alava 23:02 19.02.2010

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dobro je ja umalo nisam ubedila koleginicu da mi ona rekla to

Evo

Weir joined the chorus of criticism after his first practice, saying, "I am very offended that an American judge started this whole thing. I think it's a smear on my face and my reputation as an American figure skater and I hope he's banned from judging for the rest of his life. Coming into the Olympic Games, America already has an iffy public image and for him to basically attack every other skater in the world …

"Even though he did that trying to support American skaters, it's my reputation. Am I going to be judged differently because of what some stupid American judge did? Because I'm an American, am I going to be judged more harshly than somebody else? It wasn't the time or the place. Politics in figure skating isn't an abnormal thing but you don't do it and smear your team a week before the Olympic Games."

bauer. bauer. 02:56 20.02.2010

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I am going to watch hockey, where athletes are allowed to push the envelope. A real sport.

To i ja kažem. Idemo dalje, da vidimo šta će tu da se desi.

Veliki sam vam dužnik, ništa ne stižem od posla da komentarišem, a tek sada moram da krenem u bibloteku. Pozz. Vraćam se kasnije (ko je rekao 'server error'? stranica se jedva otvara, ako se uopšte otvara).
njanja_de.manccini njanja_de.manccini 04:10 20.02.2010

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ma ništa se ne sekiraj ti vidiš Alava super vodi tvoj blog : )))))
jeli, niko ne gleda dance parove, a?
dobro, gledaću sama.
bauer. bauer. 06:44 20.02.2010

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Alava nas održala,njojzi hvala :)))

jeli, niko ne gleda dance parove, a?

opet ti? kakvi parovi, kod mene se završio super veleslalom?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:34 19.02.2010

:(

sto vise citam ove reakcije,
sve vise mi je zao sporta.

znamo svi da je sve odavno biznis,
ali ne mora da bude bas ovako ocigledno...

samo odbijaju mlade
Unfuckable Unfuckable 22:36 19.02.2010

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maidi!
pa one krađe na fudbalu neko veče u LŠ, k'o Rej Čarls da je sudio, ono je smešno.
Ali pazi, to je fudbal - tu je tek kinta. A svet je otišao k vragu kad su krenuli da dukra i na klizanju. (mada, lepo je Pluši objasnio gore zašto)
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:42 19.02.2010

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A svet je otišao k vragu kad su krenuli da dukra i na klizanju. (mada, lepo je Pluši objasnio gore zašto)

i u klizanju je toga i ranije bilo.
ja pamtim skandal sa slutskajom, iz solt lejk sitija.
bas mi idu na sve zivce ameri i njihov
svemoguci dolar.
Alava Alava 22:44 19.02.2010

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pa one krađe na fudbalu neko veče u LŠ, k'o Rej Čarls da je sudio, ono je smešno.

a vidiš kako smo se navikli na krađe u fudbalu, malo frke 5-6 dana, i ajd dalje... tužno!

znamo svi da je sve odavno biznis,
ali ne mora da bude bas ovako ocigledno...

Meni samo nije jasno - ako su hteli da nameste već tom Lajsačeku - zar to nije moglo malo manje očigledno? A ne , već u kratkom programu naslutiš da nešto baš i ne štima, a onda u slobodnom pokradu najmanje 5 klizača! Pa i slep bi čovek video da nešto nije u redu!!!
Alava Alava 22:46 19.02.2010

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i u klizanju je toga i ranije bilo.
ja pamtim skandal sa slutskajom, iz solt lejk sitija.
bas mi idu na sve zivce ameri i njihov
svemoguci dolar.

Da, Solt Lejk Siti se ponavlja. Nisam se nadala da će se ponoviti za tako kratko vreme.

Unfuckable Unfuckable 22:47 19.02.2010

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jbg, kad je Francuska otišla na SP onakvim golom Anrija, pa šta ima onda ova klizačka boranija da se čudi?
Alava Alava 22:48 19.02.2010

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Meni ovo bilo super - kao da se ruga sudijama!

Alava Alava 22:53 19.02.2010

Kad znaš da si najbolji :)

mirelarado mirelarado 22:53 19.02.2010

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Alava
Meni ovo bilo super - kao da se ruga sudijama!


Мислим да он зна, мора знати, колико је бољи од свих других. :)

ЕДИТ: Иста мисао у исто време. :)
Unfuckable Unfuckable 22:55 19.02.2010

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samo da stavi ruke iza leđa & sunglasses...
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:56 19.02.2010

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Мислим да он зна, мора знати, колико је бољи од свих других. :)

naravno da zna.
meni je drago sto se ne folira,
i sto sasvim jasno govori o tome.
AlexDunja AlexDunja 22:58 19.02.2010

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samo da stavi ruke iza leđa & sunglasses..

i isti anf
njanja_de.manccini njanja_de.manccini 22:58 19.02.2010

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meni cudno sto ovde onog Shawn White-a slave ko svetsko cudo jer non stop pushes the sport to new limits, a za figure skating insistiraju da stoji u mestu. poglej sta kazu ovi iz new york times-a

Plushenko, who returned after a three-year retirement, views skating the way Shaun White views snowboarding: for a sport to grow, the tricks must become more intricate and daring. The quad has been a part of skating since Kurt Browning of Canada first landed one in 1988.

Alava Alava 23:09 19.02.2010

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for a sport to grow, the tricks must become more intricate and daring. The quad has been a part of skating since Kurt Browning of Canada first landed one in 1988.

Pa to kaže i Plušenko. Njemu je čudno što se ne ide u pravcu pokušavanja de se svaka vrsta izvede kao četvorostruki. Za sada su klizači uspeli da izvedu samo najlakše skokove u 4 rotacije, pa je budućnost valjda da vežbaš i teže - lutz i salchow u 4 rotacije.
A oni se vratili nazad. U stvari im tako odgovara. Solt Lejk Siti je bio idealna prilika da se uvede red u suđenje u klizanju, međutim oni jedan loš sistem ocenjivanja zamenili još lošijim.
Alava Alava 23:11 19.02.2010

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pa šta ima onda ova klizačka boranija da se čudi?

Unfuckable Unfuckable 23:20 19.02.2010

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ti da rasteš još, mala: jedan ban i misliš da si faca?
Kada ti budu brisali komentare na odavno zaključanim blogovima, javi se
mirelarado mirelarado 23:30 19.02.2010

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Тролче:

Опет ми се појављује онај ћирилични баг, не могу да прочитам Антиоксидантове постове. :(
Alava Alava 23:34 19.02.2010

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jao i Anfak ima Plušijevu bananu!!!
Unfuckable Unfuckable 23:34 19.02.2010

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NEMOGUĆE!!!

jao i Anfak ima Plušijevu bananu!!!

sanjaj, sanjaj: Pluši ima Moju, bre.
Alava Alava 23:35 19.02.2010

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Опет ми се појављује онај ћирилични баг, не могу да прочитам Антиоксидантове постове. :(

a koristiš vučkov css?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 23:42 19.02.2010

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mi tuksovi nemamo tih problema
Unfuckable Unfuckable 23:46 19.02.2010

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a koristiš vučkov css?

e da, ni njega nema 100 godina.
Jebote, gde odoše Ljudi?
AlexDunja AlexDunja 23:57 19.02.2010

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Jebote, gde odoše Ljudi?

ma tu su:))
nego petak vece, ovo - ono:)
margos margos 00:09 20.02.2010

:)))

Ste vid'li ovo?

Putin & Pluši
mirelarado mirelarado 00:12 20.02.2010

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Alava
Опет ми се појављује онај ћирилични баг, не могу да прочитам Антиоксидантове постове. :(

a koristiš vučkov css?


Аха. :)
AlexDunja AlexDunja 00:16 20.02.2010

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Putin & Pluši

oni k;o blogeri
ne persiraju:))))

bez sve sale recnik mu je....
Alava Alava 00:25 20.02.2010

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margos
Ste vid'li ovo?

Putin & Pluši

Uh , što to ne volim kad se guraju svuda ti putini i tadići
Unfuckable Unfuckable 00:55 20.02.2010

250

pa nek' si kliza mater!
AlexDunja AlexDunja 01:30 20.02.2010

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nije mala stvar!
nagrada:
Unfuckable Unfuckable 08:32 22.02.2010

danas je

ponedeljak sa gomilom dvojki u sebi, 22.02.2010., 53. dan u godini.
mirelarado mirelarado 23:30 22.02.2010

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Понедељак, Месечев дан.
bauer. bauer. 02:30 23.02.2010

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Ej, lete danovi, ko' satovi, prođe još jedna nedelja... ja, za vikend, od olimpijade ništa nisam stigao da ukačim osim da su ameri ubili kanađane... Opet, dobro.

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