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Fighting Words

Chris Farmer RSS / 16.02.2010. u 10:36

What makes us want to punch each other?

This morning, leaving my home, there was a guy who wanted to take my parking space. But he decided to wait for it in such a way as I could not easily get out of it. I signaled him to move and he inched away - it was enough for me to pass but I had to do six maneuvers to get by without hitting him.

I signaled again for him to move. This time the response was to open the window and ask me angrily what I wanted. The position he chose was immediately aggressive. He was ready to fight. I declined.

A couple of weeks ago, I witnessed a man who came looking for a fight with someone out of Heroism: he came to defend the honor of his girlfriend. But instead of letting his words talk, he moved immediately to violence. A fight ensued. Blood was drawn. The police were called.

We are aggressive people. The incident above did not involve me, but I have felt the same kind of rage from time to time in my life. Many have. But the question I have is when does it become acceptable to cross the line between civilized behavior, even if angry, and unchecked violence and aggression?  

If you watch television or films, or (and perhaps worse still) television films, you are likely to see several people being punched in the face or fighting in the course of a day. When I was younger, I remember that it always the Bad Guy who did the punching and the Good Guy would defend himself.

And he would usually win.

But in today's imagery, we are more likely to see the perceived Good Guy lose his temper and start the fight. We are being trained and conditioned to react violently and aggressively. If not, we are seen as cowardly or as weak.

I teach my son to avoid fights in school. I try to show him that words are as effective. That people who want to resort to shoving matches are the ones who have run out of words to say what they feel, to control themselves, and to solve their own problems. I do not mean, by this, that he should be the quickest and cleverest in doing the dozens. I don't think having the better (or louder) insult ready is the solution. I want him to disarm aggression before it becomes violent.

Have I, in counseling this, left him an easy target to school bullies?

This is my greatest fear. The fact is that aggression has become an acceptable standard. Begin talking about violence and aggression and you will soon find everyone around you has a few stories - some of them will be understandable, some will turn your insides out.

Most people who get into fights will protest that they had no choice or that it was not their fault. These are rationalizations. We do not always like the choices, but we always have them. And a real fight involves at least two participants: how can we not take our own share of the responsibility? But we offer these rationalizations, I think, because we secretly know that resorting to violence is a failure of civilized behavior.

Even if it is glamorized in the movies.

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duchesse duchesse 11:17 16.02.2010

Hmmmm

when does it become acceptable to cross the line between civilized behavior, even if angry, and unchecked violence and aggression

Avoiding physical conflict is always the best solution, but, to my mind, if you're the one being attacked, it's quite acceptable to unleash the red dragon. I'm not big on turning the other cheek, and the "let yourself be killed, but do not kill" doctrine, so if someone should hit me, I'd fight back with all I've got... and I haven't got much so I'd most probably get my a## kicked... but I still think it's important to fight back when you'te being bullied. This of course doesn't go for Orthodox monks. They should be meek, humble and quiet.
Chris Farmer Chris Farmer 13:41 16.02.2010

Re: Hmmmm

@duchesse

It needs to be stated here, for the sake of clarity, that I believe that aggression should never go unchallenged. Turning the other cheek, if it means giving in to aggression or aggressors, is not acceptable either.

I only point out that agression and violence should be a LAST resort, not a first/best option.

And re: monks - indeed....
duchesse duchesse 14:04 16.02.2010

Re: Hmmmm

monks - indeed....


I only point out that agression and violence should be a LAST resort, not a first/best option.

About violence. I remember a quote from a spy film (a very intellectual source of wisdom, I admit): the response should be equal to the stimulus. Spot on.
antony92 antony92 12:14 16.02.2010

Well thought out

... and well written.

well...

Given the age, one tends to agree with you, but… Look what good guys of today have to do. Jack Bauer, for example...
drug.clan drug.clan 14:11 16.02.2010

"civilized behavior"

But the question I have is when does it become acceptable to cross the line between civilized behavior, even if angry, and unchecked violence and aggression?


bad wording ...

existence of civilization (and civilized behavior) is not (in any way) contingent upon nonexistence of "violence and aggression"
if we look back, we may see that european civilization was imposed upon others exclusively by "violence and aggression"
duchesse duchesse 14:19 16.02.2010

Re: "civilized behavior"

european civilization


I am as free as Nature first made man,
Ere the base laws of servitude began,
When wild in woods the noble savage ran.
The Conquest of Granada, John Dryden

I think that by "civilized" Chris meant "polite". Now, we can discuss what being polite means in terms of modern culture...
Chris Farmer Chris Farmer 17:50 16.02.2010

Re: "civilized behavior"

Better words?

"What is a civilization, rightly considered? Morally, it is the evil passions repressed, the level of conduct raised; spiritually, idols cast down, God enthroned; materially, bread and fair treatment for the greatest number. That is the common formula, the common definition; everybody accepts it and is satisfied with it."

- Mark Twain
drug.clan drug.clan 18:51 16.02.2010

Re: "civilized behavior"

Chris Farmer
Better words?

"What is a civilization, rightly considered? Morally, it is the evil passions repressed, the level of conduct raised; spiritually, idols cast down, God enthroned; materially, bread and fair treatment for the greatest number. That is the common formula, the common definition; everybody accepts it and is satisfied with it."

- Mark Twain


based on this definition, we may say that only some christians are civilized ...

I'm not satisfied and couldn't accept any part of this definition

definitions similar to this one are main cause and excuse for genocides around the world where civilized Christians tried to civilize "savages" by killing and raping them
Dejan Ninkovic Dejan Ninkovic 15:39 16.02.2010

(D)evolution needed


I take it you’re in Belgrade.

Firstly, on a global level, there is an abundance of "stimulus" in modern cities.Not sure if we as spieces evolved to that just yet. Any overwhealming situation causes anxiety in humans.What comes after that is "fight or flight" mode. Right?

Now localy... Add to that mentality (pride here turns into everything and anything), bad economic situation (guy you ran into, god knows what his story is), very unorganized and urbanistically challenged city of Belgrade (parking space? how do you define that?:) and did I add bad economic situation?:))))

You might just end up being a "vent" for a guy that can't pay his debts, his wife moved out and told him he was a loser for living with his parents, had too much "turska kafa" that morning and on, and on, and on....

Make your own case scenario:)


I admit I am guilty of overreacting sometimes as well, the famous "road rage".

Best is to go by the christian "ko tebe lopatom ti njega hlebom" ...oh wait ...the monks the other day in metohija...wait, wait, never mind:)
sashenka sashenka 18:34 16.02.2010

i teach my kids

never to fight. that it is unacceptable to hit, even after they've been hit first. that violence is never a good choice.
i am pretty lonely here though - most people i know are afraid that it makes their kids a target.
Bili Piton Bili Piton 18:58 16.02.2010

Re: i teach my kids

sashenka
never to fight. that it is unacceptable to hit, even after they've been hit first. that violence is never a good choice.
i am pretty lonely here though - most people i know are afraid that it makes their kids a target.


it may be a good idea to enroll your kids (if they're old enough) to a self-defence or personal safety awareness course, even martial arts or some such thing, just so that they wouldn't be an easy target should anyone attempt to physically harm them in any way. The emphasis of course being on defence - if the kids are brought up with the notion that it is unacceptable to hit (or rather, attack), they should be able to fully understand the purpose and importance of being able to hit back, if absolutely necessary. I'm pretty certain such courses or classes exist in Serbia, although they might not be exactly cheap - but it may be worthwhile, especially in an explosive, short tempered and potentially aggressive climate.

Arhiva

   

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