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Piše LW

Čujem se jutros mailom sa Zoricom blogerkom.  Ponedeljak, šta ima, kako si. I ništa vikend, ništa šoping report, čim razmenismo info o deci i unukama, odmah pređosmo na Serbian Current Affairs. 

Evo transkripta mailova:  "Ne znam sta mi bi da pustim onaj radio Fokus, kao ajde da čujem šta se priča kod njih,usput dok radim. Mogu ti reći da sam se razbolela. Ono nije za normalnog da sluša. Baš sam se potresla jer mi liči da ono što oni u stvari propagiraju (Rusija) mogu i ostvariti. Užas jedan.

Ja poslušam nekad taj Fokus, čisto da čujem kakve su budale. Međutim jutros sam se sva naježila. Javljaju se neke žene, profesorke, istoričarke, lepo sklapaju rečenice, ali to što govore je strašno. Kosa mi se digla na glavi. Valjda su u nekoj "kulminaciji" jer agituju za neki skup 15. februara protiv Ahtisarija". Kao slušaoci traže da radikali pozuv  na taj miting, a ovi sa radija kao neće da govore u ime "neke" stranke jer oni su kao radio a ne politička stranka (kako providno, ali alibi Cekiću da im ne uzme frekvenciju).

Tu sam čula da se Ukrajina prizvala pameti brzo, a da će i Gruzija bez obzira što je trenutno u zabludi. Tu voditelj dovodi ljude u zabludu da Putin nije ni o čemu drugom pričao sem o tome da Rusija neće dozvoliti da nam se uzme teritorija (bez obzira sto on u izlaganju to nije ni spomenuo, sem u delu kad mu je postavljeno pitanje). Zatim, non stop se od strane voditelja potencira da su Amerikanci reagovali histerično što dokazuje tezu kako su Rusi sad jaki itd, itd.

Dalje, voditelj Albance stalno zove Šiptari. Slušaoci slave Rusiju. Traže da se  prestane sa učenjem agresorskih jezika u školama i da se uči ruski. Onda pričaju kako na Kosovu u enklavama gde žive Srbi "Šiptari" dovode svoju decu na inekcije i da je nedopustivo da se njihova deca leče od našeg novca itd. itd sve u tom stilu. Strašno, veruj mi, strašno.

Posle svakog komentara voditelj ima svoj komentar u stilu: Srbija ustaje, Srbija se budi, nas sluša milion i dvesta hiljada ljudi itd itd. Propaganda neviđena i opasna. Opasna.  Evo kaže Marko ( Jankovic/LW) : Da apstrahujemo sve Koraće i ostale bitange.  Joooj. Kaže Marko: Redovna njihova slušateljka je poslala Putinu pismo i delovi njegovog "govora" su upravo iz njenog pisma. Kaže, naravno, on nije rekao da je to iz njenog pisma, ali jeste bilo. Kaze, sad je interegnum. Nema vlade i Toma treba da preuzme diplomatsku  inicijativu jer je najjača stranka u parlamentu i da odmah ode kod Putina.Da nije opsano zaludjivanje naroda slatko bih se smejala."

Tačno tako. Da nije ove nesreće u Prištini, da nije još dva života koja su uzalud protraćena…A evo dole i  tog govora dotične slušateljke radio Fokusa u izvedbi Vladimira Putina lično. Piše Mile al piše i Hund. Mene živo zanima šta bi bilo kada bi VP svoj autoritet i neskriveno zalaganje za poštovanje međunarodnog prava iskoristio da malo zalegne na Srbiju da isporuči Ratka Mladića. Zanima me, da, i kako to Mira i svi živi koji Srbiji i drugima toliko zla naneše baš u majčici Rusiji, tako posvećenoj miru, stabilnosti i pravdi nađoše utočište.  

PS Svi komentari tipa LW je upala u hladnoratovsku paranoju su potpuno na mestu i nepotrebno ih je ponavljati.  Već mi je i šef to rekao.

VLADIMIR PUTIN -Speech at the Munich Conference on Security Policy, Munich Thank you very much dear Madam, Federal Chancellor, Mr Teltschik, ladies and gentlemen!I am truly grateful to be invited to such a representative conference that has assembled politicians, military officials, entrepreneurs and experts from more than 40 nations.

This conference’s structure allows me to avoid excessive politeness and the need to speak in roundabout, pleasant but empty diplomatic terms. This conference’s format will allow me to say what I really think about international security problems. And if my comments seem undul polemical, pointed or inexact to our colleagues, then I would ask you not to get angry with me.After all, this is only a conference. And I hope that after the first two or three minutes of my speech Mr Teltschik will not turn on the red light over there. 

Therefore. It is well known that international security comprises much more than issues relating to military and political stability. It involves the stability of the global economy, overcoming poverty, economic security and developing a dialogue between  civilisations. This universal, indivisible character of security is expressed as the basic principle that “security for one is security for all”. As Franklin D. Roosevelt said during the first few days that the Second World War was breaking out:”When peace has been broken anywhere, the peace of all countries everywhere is in danger.”

 These words remain topical today. Incidentally,the theme of our conference ­ global crises,global responsibility ­ exemplifies this.Only two decades ago the world was ideologically and economically divided and it was the huge strategic potential of two superpowers that ensured global security.This global stand-off pushed the sharpest economic and social problems to the margins of the international community’s and the world’s agenda. And, just like any war, the Cold War left us with live ammunition, figuratively speaking. I am referring to ideological stereotypes, double standards and other typical aspects of Cold War bloc thinking.  The unipolar world that had been proposed after the Cold War did not take place either.

The history of humanity certainly has gone through unipolar periods and seen aspirations to world supremacy. And what hasn’t happened in world history? However, what is a unipolar world? However one might embellish this term, at the end of the day it refers to one type of situation, namely one centre of authority, one centre of force, one centre of  decision-making. It is world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for th sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within.

And this certainly has nothing in common with democracy. Because, as you know, democracy is the power of the majority in light of the interests and opinions of the minority. Incidentally, Russia ­ we­ are constantly being taught about democracy. But for some reason those who teach us do not want to learn themselves.I consider that the unipolar model is not only unacceptable but also impossible in today’s world. And this is not only because if there was individual leadership in today’s ­ and precisely in today’s ­ world, then the military, political and economic resources would not suffice. What is even more important is that the model itself is flawed because at its basis there is and can be no moral foundations for modern civilisation. 

Along with this, what is happening in today’s world­ and we just started to discuss this ­ is a tentative to introduce precisely this concept into international affairs, the concept of a unipolar world. And with which results?

Unilateral and frequently illegitimate actions have not resolved any problems. Moreover, they have caused new human tragedies and created new centres of tension. Judge for yourselves: wars as well as local and regional conflicts have not diminished. Mr Teltschik mentioned this very gently. And no less people perish in these conflicts ­ even more are dying than before. Significantly more, significantly more!Today we are witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force­ military force­ in international relations, force that is plunging the world into an abyss of permanent conflicts. As a result we do not have sufficient strength to find a comprehensive solution to any one of these conflicts.  

Finding a political settlement also becomes impossible.We are seeing a greater and greater disdain for the basic principles of international law. And independent legal norms are, as a matter of fact, coming increasingly closer to one state’s legal system. One state and, of course, first and foremost the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way. This is visible in the economic, political, cultural and educationaln policies it imposes on other nations. Well, who likes this? Who is happy about this?

 In international relations we increasingly see the desire to resolve a given question according to so-called issues of political expediency, based on the current political climate. And of course this is extremely dangerous. It results in the fact that no one feels safe. I want to emphasise this­ no one feels safe! Because no one can feel that international law is like a stone wall that will protect them. Of course such a policy stimulates an arms race. The force’s dominance inevitably encourages a number of countries to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Moreover, significantly new threats  though they were also well-known before ­ have appeared, and today threats such as terrorism have taken on a global character. 

I am convinced that we have reached that decisive moment when we must seriously think about the architecture of global security. And we must proceed by searching for a reasonable balance between the interests of all participants in the international dialogue. Especially since the international landscape is so varied and changes so quickly­ changes in light of the dynamic development in a whole number of countries and regions.Madam Federal Chancellor already mentioned this. The combined GDP measured in purchasing power parity of countries such as India and China is already greater than that of the United States. And a similar calculation with the GDP of the BRIC countries ­ Brazil, Russia, India and China- surpasses the cumulative GDP of the EU. And according to experts this gap will only increase in the future. There is no reason to doubt that the economic potential of the new centres of global economic growth will inevitably be converted into political influence and will strengthen multipolarity. In connection with this the role of multilateral diplomacy is significantly increasing. The need for principles such as openness, transparency and predictability in politics is uncontested and the use of force should be a really exceptional measure, comparable to using the death penalty in the judicial systems of certain states.

However, today we are witnessing the opposite tendency, namely a situation in which countries that forbid the death penalty even for murderers and other, dangerous criminals are airily participating in military operations that are difficult to consider legitimate. And as a matter of fact, these conflicts are killing people -hundreds and thousands of civilians!

But at the same time the question arises of whether we should be indifferent and aloof to various internal conflicts inside countries, to authoritarian regimes, to tyrants, and to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction? As a matter of fact, this was also at the centre of the question that our dear colleague Mr Lieberman asked the Federal Chancellor. If I correctly understood your question (addressing Mr Lieberman), then of course it is a serious one! Can we be indifferent observers in view of what is happening? I will try to answer your question as well: of course not.

  But do we have the means to counter these threats? Certainly we do. It is sufficient to look at recent history. Did not our country have a peaceful transition to democracy? Indeed, we witnessed a peaceful transformation of the Soviet regime­ a peaceful transformation! And what a regime! With what a number of weapons, including nuclear weapons! Why should we start bombing and shooting now at every available opportunity? Is it the case when without the threat of mutual destruction we do not have enough political culture, respect for democratic values and for the law? 

I am convinced that the only mechanism that can make decisions about using military force as a last resort is the Charter of the United Nations. And in connection with this, either I did not understand what our colleague, the Italian Defence Minister, just said or what he said was inexact. In any case, I understood that the use of force can only be legitimate when the decision is taken by NATO, the EU, or the UN. If he really does think so, then we have different points of view. Or I didn’t hear correctly. The use of force can only be considered legitimate if the decision is sanctioned by the UN. And we do not need to substitute NATO or the EU for the UN. When the UN will truly unite the forces of the international community and can really react to events in various countries, when we will leave behind this disdain for international law, then the situation will be able to change. Otherwise the situation will simply result in a dead end, and the number of serious mistakes will be multiplied. Along with this, it is necessary to make sure that international law have a universal character both in the conception and application of its norms. And one must not forget that democratic political actions necessarily go along with discussion and a laborious decision-making process.

 Dear ladies and gentlemen!

The potential danger of the destabilisation of international relations is connected with obvious stagnation in the disarmament issue. Russia supports the renewal of dialogue on this important question.It is important to conserve the international legal framework relating to weapons destruction and therefore ensure continuity in the process of reducing nuclear weapons.

Together with the United States of America we agreed to reduce our nuclear  strategic missile capabilities to up to 1700-2000 nuclear warheads by 31 December 2012. Russia intends to strictly fulfil the obligations it has taken on. We hope that our partners will also act in a transparent way and will refrain from laying aside a couple of hundred superfluous nuclear warheads for a rainy day. And if today the new American DefenceMinister declares that the United States will not hide these superfluous weapons in warehouse or, as one might say, under a pillow or under the blanket, then I suggest that we all rise and greet this declaration standing. It would be a very important declaration.

Russia strictly adheres to and intends to further adhere to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as well as the multilateral supervision regime for missile technologies. The principles incorporated in these documents are universal ones.

 In connection with this I would like to recall that in the 1980s the USSR and the United States signed an agreement on destroying a whole range of small- and medium-range missiles but these documents do not have a universal character. Today many other countries have these missiles, including the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the Republic of Korea, India, Iran, Pakistan and Israel. Many countries are working on these systems and plan to incorporate them as part of their weapons arsenals. And only the United States and Russia bear the responsibility to not create such weapons systems. 

It is obvious that in these conditions we must think about ensuring our own security.At the same time, it is impossible to sanction the appearance of new, destabilising high-tech weapons. Needless to say it refers to measures to prevent a new area of confrontation, especially in outer space. Star wars is no longer a fantasy­ it is a reality. In the middle of the 1980s our American partners were already able to intercept their own satellite.In Russia’s opinion, the militarisation of outer space could have unpredictable consequences for the international community, and provoke nothing less than the beginning of a nuclear era. And we have come forward more than once with initiatives designed to prevent the use of weapons in outer space.

Today I would like to tell you that we have prepared a project for an agreement on the prevention of deploying weapons in outer space. And in the near future it will be sent to our partners as an official proposal. Let’s work on this together. Plans to expand certain elements of the anti-missile defence system to Europe cannot help but disturb us. Who needs the next step of what would be, in this case, an inevitable arms race? I deeply doubt that Europeans themselves do. Missile weapons with a range of about five to eight thousand kilometres that really pose a threat to Europe do not exist in any of the so-called problem countries. And in the near future and prospects, this will not happen and is not even foreseeable. And any hypothetical launch of, for example, a North Korean rocket to American territory through western Europe obviously contradicts the laws of ballistics. As we say in Russia, it would be like using the right hand to reach the left ear.

And here in Germany I cannot help but mention the pitiable condition of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe. The Adapted Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe was signed in 1999. It took into account a new geopolitical reality, namely the elimination of the Warsaw bloc. Seven years have passed and only four states have ratified this document, including the Russian Federation.NATO countries openly declared that they will not ratify this treaty, including the provisions on flank restrictions (on deploying a certain number of armed forces in the flank zones), until Russia removed its military bases from Georgia and Moldova. Our army is leaving Georgia, even according to an accelerated schedule. We resolved the problems we had with our Georgian colleagues, as everybody knows. There are still 1,500 servicemen in Moldova that are carrying out peacekeeping operations and protecting warehouses with ammunition left over from Soviet times. We constantly discuss this issue with Mr Solana and he knows our position. We are ready to further work in this direction. But what is happening at the same time? Simultaneously the so-called flexible frontline American bases with up to five thousand men in each. It turns out that NATO has put its frontline forces on our borders, and we continue to strictly fulfil the treaty obligations and do not react to these actions at all. I think it is obvious that NATO expansion does not have any relation with the modernisation of the Alliance itself or with ensuring security in Europe. On the contrary, it represents a serious provocation that reduces the level of mutual trust. And we have the right to ask: against whom is this expansion intended? And what happened to the assurances our western partners made after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact? Where are those declarations today? No one even remembers them. 

 But I will allow myself to remind this audience what was said. I would like to quote the speech of NATO General Secretary Mr Woerner in Brussels on 17 May 1990. He said at the time that: “the fact that we are ready not to place a NATO army outside of German territory gives the Soviet Union a firm security guarantee”. Where are these guarantees?

The stones and concrete blocks of the Berlin Wall have long been distributed as souvenirs. But we should not forget that the fall of the Berlin Wall was possible thanks to a historic choice -one that was also made by our people, the people of Russia­ a choice in favour of democracy,freedom, openness and a sincere partnership with all the members of the big European family. And now they are trying to impose new dividing lines and walls on us ­ these walls may be virtual but they are nevertheless dividing, ones that cut through our continent. And is it possible that we will once again require many years and decades, as well as several generations of politicians, to dissemble and dismantle these new walls? 

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

We are unequivocally in favour of strengthening the regime of non-proliferation. The present international legal principles allow us to develop technologies to manufacture nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes. And many countries with all good reasons want to create their own nuclear energy as a basis for their energy independence. But we also understand that these technologies can be quickly transformed into nuclear weapons.  This creates serious international tensions. The situation surrounding the Iranian nuclear programme acts as a clear example. And if the international community does not find a

reasonable solution for resolving this conflict of interests, the world will continue to suffer similar, destabilising crises because there are more threshold countries than simply Iran. We both know this. We are going to constantly fight against the threat of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Last year Russia put forward the initiative to establish international centres for the enrichment of uranium. We are open to the possibility that such centres not only be created in Russia, but also in other countries where there is a legitimate basis for using civil nuclear energy. Countries that want to develop their nuclear energy could guarantee that they will receive fuel through direct participation in these centres. And the centres would, of course, operate under strict IAEA supervision.

The latest initiatives put forward by American President George W. Bush are in conformity with the Russian proposals. I consider that Russia and the USA are objectively and equally interested in strengthening the regime of the non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and their deployment. It is precisely our countries, with leading nuclear and missile capabilities, that must act as leaders in developing new, stricter non-proliferation measures. Russia is ready for such work. We are engaged in consultations with our American friends. 

In general, we should talk about establishing a whole system of political incentives and economic stimuli whereby it would not be in states’ interests to establish their own capabilities in the nuclear fuel cycle but they would still have the opportunity to develop nuclear energy and strengthen their energy capabilities. In connection with this I shall talk about international energy cooperation in more detail. Madam Federal Chancellor also spoke about this briefly­ she mentioned, touched on this theme.

In the energy sector Russia intends to create uniform market principles and transparent conditions for all. It is obvious that energy prices must be determined by the market instead of being the subject of political speculation, economic pressure or blackmail. We are open to cooperation. Foreign companies participate in all our major energy projects.According to different estimates, up to 26 percent of the oil extraction in Russia ­ and please think about this figure ­ up to 26 percent of the oil extraction in Russia is done by foreign capital. Try, try to find me a similar example where Russian business participates extensively in key economic sectors in western countries. Such examples do not exist! There are no such examples. I would also recall the parity of foreign investments in Russia and those Russia makes abroad. The parity is about fifteen to one. And here you have an obvious example of the openness and stability of the Russian economy. Economic security is the sector in which all must adhere to uniform principles. We are ready to compete fairly. For that reason more and more opportunities are appearing in the Russian economy. Experts and our western partners are objectively evaluating these changes. As such, Russia’s OECD sovereign credit rating improved and Russia passed from the fourth to the third group. And today in Munich I would like to use this occasion to thank our German colleagues for their help in the above decision. 

Furthermore. As you know, the process of Russia joining the WTO has reached its final stages. I would point out that during long, difficult talks  we heard words about freedom of speech, free trade, and equal possibilities more than once but, for some reason, exclusively in reference to the Russian market.

  And there is still one more important theme that directly affects global security. Today many talk about the struggle against poverty. What is actually happening in this sphere? On the one hand, financial resources are allocated for programmes to help the world’s poorest countries­ and at times substantial financial resources. But to be honest -- and many here also know this­ linked with the development of that same donor country’s companies. And on the other hand, developed countries simultaneously keep their agricultural subsidies and limit some countries’ access to high-tec products. 

And let’s say things as they are ­ one hand distributes charitable help and the other hand not only preserves economic backwardness but also reaps the profits thereof. The increasing social tension in depressed regions inevitably results in the growth of radicalism, extremism, feeds terrorism and local conflicts. And if all this happens in, shall we say, a region such as the Middle East where there is increasingly the sense that the world at large is unfair, then there is the risk of global destabilisation.It is obvious that the world’s leading countries should see this threat. And that they should therefore build a more democratic, fairer system of global economic relations, a system that would give everyone the chance and the possibility to develop.

Dear ladies and gentlemen,

speaking at the Conference on Security Policy, it is impossible not to mention the activities of the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). As is well-known, this organisation was created to examine all ­ I shall emphasise this ­ all aspects of security: military, political, economic, humanitarian and, especially, the relations between these spheres. What do we see happening today? We see that this balance is clearly destroyed. People are trying to transform the OSCE into a vulgar instrument designed to promote the foreign policy interests of one or a group of countries. And this task is also being accomplished by the OSCE’s bureaucratic apparatus which is absolutely not connected with the state founders in any way. Decision-making procedures and the involvement  of so-called non-governmental organisations are tailored  for this task. These organisations are formally independent but they are purposefully financed and therefore under control. According to the founding documents, in the humanitarian sphere the OSCE is designed to assist country members in observing international human rights norms at their request. This is an important task. We support this. But this does not mean interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and especially not imposing a regime that determines how these states should live and develop. It is obvious that such interference does not promote the development of democratic states at all. On the contrary, it makes them dependent and, as a consequence, politically and economically unstable. We expect that the OSCE be guided by its primary tasks and build relations with sovereign states based on respect, trust and transparency.

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

In conclusion I would like to note the following. We very often ­ and personally, I very often ­hear appeals by our partners, including our European partners, to the effect that Russia should play an increasingly active role in world affairs. In connection with this I would allow myself to make one small remark. It is hardly necessary to incite us to do so. Russia is a country with a history that spans more than a thousand years and has practically always used the privilege to carry out an independent foreign policy.We are not going to change this tradition today. At the same time, we are well aware of how the world has changed and we have a realistic sense of our own opportunities and potential. And of course we would like to interact with responsible and independent partners with whom we could work together in constructing a fair and democratic world order that would ensure security and prosperity not only for a select few, but for all.

Thank you for your attention.  

       


"SHIPTARIMA CE PRIPASTI KOSOVO!"

to je naslov iz frankfurtskih "vesti" od juche - dat ogromnim slovima- skoro preko cele strane. mesta mom sablaznjenu nije bilo duze od 5. sec - onda sam shvatio da je to u sasvim uobichajenom maniru ovih i slichnih trovacha srpske misli - najgore u svemu je shto su izvesno glasniji i uspeshniji od ljudi i medija (retkih) koji iznose suvisle stavove.

Rusija ce uloziti veto samo u sluchaju da Srbija kategorichki odbije Ahtisarijev predlog.

mislim da ce albanska pr. vlada uskoro samostalno, out of the blue, proglasiti Kosovo nezavisnim.
onda ce Kosovom vladati Haradinaj i ekipa, shto ce dovesti jedino do toga da se balkanska mafija uspeshnije konsoliduje i oraganizuje.

Unmik ce morati da ih tolerishe, jer su mishljenja da ovi kriminalci kao jedini mogu da drze albansko stanovnishtvo Kosova zauzdanim.


Dobro LW, pa ti bar znaš

da idu predsednički izbori i kod Amera i kod Rusa ;) i da je ovaj govor (a i McCaine-ova replika) samo deo velikog šarenog trejlera pred 'new release'... Kako se tu našao radio Fokus, ne iznenađuje me - kod nas vekovima, brat-bratu bar 2 miliona ljudi svakodnevno čeka/moli se da dođu baćuške.. ;)


mc caine

i sunny belt neokons su i religious right, nadam se, nadam se, past tense big time

a ovi fokusovci, meni je super oni ne cekaju demokratsku rusiju, jok-taman posla, nego bas bacuske autoritarne


Kad god pocne razgovor na

Kad god pocne razgovor na temu politike, moji prijatelji stupe u zucne rasprave oko toga ko je i sta je bolje ZA NAS. MI smo naravno, oni u Srbiji, a i ONI preko okeana, ili po Evropi i ostalim delovima zemaljske kugle su DRUGI. Mene obicno gledaju kao predstavnika opcije koju mrze s obzirom da sam preko bare vec duze vreme, ali naravno zaboravljaju da sam ostavila NJIH zbog nemanja posla, nemanja buducnosti, malko ranije od novih nezadovoljnika i nesrecnika koji su iz Srbije otisli pre petnaestak, ili desetak godina. Posto sam ja sve ono sto oni ne vole, onda se obicno odbrane, ukoliko se usudim da nesto kazem, recenicom: " Ti nisi bila ovde i ti ne znas." Ja sam bila verovatno na Marsu i zaista ne znam. Problem je sto se ovakve ideje, gore navedene u tekstu, nalaze u glavama ogromne vecine. To su uostalom pokazali zadnji izbori. Zao mi je ljudi koji ovo ne zasluzuju, zao mi je sto ce mnogi nastaviti da napustaju Srbiju jer im nema mesta pod gore prikazanim okolnstima vidljivim kroz razne radio-tv-terore, a o novinama da i ne govorimo. E, pa posto vecina zeli Ruse i zali Milosevica i nada se uspehu onih koji u DRUGIMA ( to su ostali MI), izazivaju dizanje kose na glavi, onda mogu samo da pozelim da im dodju ti NJIHOVI i da ih izvedu na PRAVI PUT. Volim ruski jezik i poeziju, imam divne ruske prijatelje, ali rezim i ova guja Putin, samo su dokaz nepromenljivosti i njihove nade da ce do Armagedona na kraju morati da dodje, ukoliko se, kao sto neko rece, ne dese promene. I tacno je da je ovakva retorika obicno pred nove izbore. Eto, Bus recimo, obecava promene u zdravstvenom osiguranju koje bi mogle, ako se ovako nastavi, da dovedu Ameriku u tesku situaciju. Bus obecava, ali se nada da ce stanje ostati nepromenjeno.
Uostalom, da li prijatelji, rodjaci, poslovni partneri mogu da odvoje bar jedan dan u kome se nece pominjati razno-razni likovi za koje, da se ovo sve nije desilo NAMA, ne bi znali ni da postoje.


Sa skoro šest godina preko bare

i to svojevoljno, nakon pakovanja Miloševića u zatvor, mogu da se zakunem u šajkaču ;) da sam bolje informisan od 90% glasača u Srbiji (na stranu nauke kojima se 'bavim'). Torture kojima sam izložen kad se oglasim prava su naučna fantastika - nema tog naroda koji u uslovima samoizolacije može bolje da oslika svoje genetsko prokletstvo od Srba, niti ima tog naroda koji ume lepše da neguje zablude i 'tradicionalne vrednosti', i neke sasvim prevaziđene kolektivističke norme (da se razumemo, ima i _aktuelnih_ kolektivističkih normi poput global environmental action, global social change awareness, ali su Srbi jedno dve-tri svetlosne godine iza tih ideja). U maju se vraćam na par meseci, onda opet ovamo u beli svet da nešto pozavršavam, i od Nove godine eto mene, opet svojevoljno ;) u tzv. 'otadžbini'. Ja se već *sada* osećam teškim autsajderom, u 2009. ću verovatno da završim u Lazi. I to ako ne budu štrajkovali. :)


nije nego

od onih tvoji krugova upadam u iste LW cikluse, takodje u cold varijanti. Nego kaze meni bliska osoba a nije redovna slusateljka fokusa
"Znas...mislim znam sve, ali ipak... Putin je dobar.....Doooobar. I Jak [zvizduk]"
Glasam za Jak i srbijicu i beeee.


no one wants a new Cold War with Russia...

Quote:

Feb 12, 2007, 15:55 GMT

Washington - US President George W Bush considers Vladimir Putin an ally despite the Russian president's harsh criticism of US military power and influence, the White House said Monday.

'The president has regular and quite often frank conversations with President Putin,' Bush's chief spokesman Tony Snow said. 'They understand each other and they'll continue working together.'

Putin warned Saturday that a US-led 'unipolar world' was unacceptable and, in remarks also aimed at the United States, criticised 'hyper-use of military in international relations.'

US officials have rejected Putin's portrayal of US domination while stressing the importance of relations with Moscow.

'We certainly disagree with the characterization of the United States acting unilaterally,' Snow told reporters. 'The United States does in fact regard Russia as an important ally.'

The US values Moscow's contributions in efforts to curb nuclear programmes by Iran and North Korea, he said.

Putin's broadside against US global influence came at an international security conference in Munich.

US Defence Secretary Robert Gates, speaking Sunday at the same gathering, said 'there is no desire for a new Cold War with Russia' and insisted the two countries had to work together.

bonus:
evo jedan ruso-link za Kosovo :


Kosovo: A Serbian Question


kakav kraj

hvala za ovaj link ...pogledah, ni rec o srpskim zlocinima nad Albancima

"The only country standing up for the rule of law, right and reason, as usual, is the Russian Federation, which refuses to allow any settlement which would be humiliating for Serbia and wishes to postpone any UN decision until a Serbian government can be formed (after elections) to deliberate on the issue....

Giving Kosovo to the Albanians by making it an independent state is paramount to giving the thumbs-up to the Fascist practices of the Albanians during the Second World War, when they sided with Hitler. It is to condone acts of terrorism perpetrated by the Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves, the KLA, against fellow Albanians and Serbs alike. It is to create an Albanian question in the Balkans, because after Kosovo will come Greece, Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro. Perhaps these nations should decide what happens on their frontiers and not Washington, London, Paris, Berlin, Rome and Helsinki and perhaps these countries should, for once, get off their high horse of arrogance and listen to Vladimir Putin."


EU to press Russia on Kosovo

uzmite i ovo u obzir , molim :

EU to press Russia on Kosovo, mulls resuming talks with Serbia

Quote:
Feb 12, 2007, 10:47 GMT

Brussels - The EU said Monday that it would work to convince Russia of a UN plan aimed at setting Serbia's breakaway region Kosovo on the path of independence, which the Kremlin sees as a precedent for similar developments across the post-Soviet region.

'We will continue discussing the proposal carefully with Russia, and I hope we will find a solution that will underpin stability in the Western Balkans,' German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told reporters when arriving at a meeting with his counterparts in Brussels.

Some EU ministers also called for resuming stalled talks on closer ties with Serbia once a new pro-European government was formed, despite Belgrade's failure to arrest war crimes suspects.

'We as the EU have to show that when a pro-European government in Serbia is established, we certainly also have to restart (talks on the) stabilization and association agreement,' said Luxembourg's Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn.

The 27-member bloc froze negotiations on such a pact - the first step towards EU membership - with Serbia in May 2006, demanding Belgrade show 'full cooperation' with the UN international court for war crimes in former Yugoslavia.

'If this government engages in cooperating with ICTY, then ... we have achieved what we wanted,' Asselborn said, adding: 'This is a political process, not an arithmetic one.'

Austrian Foreign Minister Ursula Plassnik said the quick formation of a new Serbian government 'which expresses its determination (for full cooperation with the court) in an unequivocal and active way' should lead to a resumption of suspended talks 'as soon as possible.'

EU foreign policy and security chief Javier Solana said that the bloc must 'send a positive signal at the moment when a new (Serbian) government is formed.'

However, EU member states are split over whether talks on the agreement should resume before Serbia hands over former Bosnian Serb general Ratko Mladic for trial on genocide charges to the court in The Hague.

Several EU states - including Spain, Hungary and Slovenia - have said the EU must boost pro-European forces in Serbia and give it an incentive to cooperate over Kosovo.

Those seeking a softer line also insist that a final deal on closer economic and political ties with Serbia should only be sealed once Mladic is sent to The Hague.

EU enlargement commissioner Olli Rehn has indicated that a clear commitment from a new Serbian government to cooperate fully with the court could be enough to allow a resumption of talks.

Chief UN war crimes prosecutor Carla Del Ponte has warned the EU against restarting talks with Serbia, harshly criticizing Belgrade's failure to cooperate with the tribunal in the hunt for Mladic.

UN envoy for Kosovo, Martti Ahtisaari, is to brief the foreign ministers on how he intends to push his plan forward. However, the 27-member bloc will not decide on its handling of the Kosovo issue.

Ministers are expected to declare their full support for the UN proposal which recommends that Kosovo should govern itself democratically and be able to make international agreements.

The final talks before the plan envisaging Kosovo's gradual independence reaches the UN were delayed to February 21 at the request of Serbia, which has rejected the proposal as 'unacceptable.'

EU ministers are also set to push ahead with preparations for an international presence to take control of a UN mission in Kosovo, which has administered the province since 1999.

While the EU is due to confirm its readiness to support Serbia's 'European perspective' and call for the speedy formation of a new government, EU diplomats have said that the bloc is expected to uphold conditions for resuming stalled talks with Belgrade.

hodamo lagano i "na prstima " ...

valjda ce se naci zajednicki jezik ... ljudi smo ...


Kako zauzdati Rusiju?

U tekstu koji je objavljen u "Pravdi" nema ni reči o tome kako su se stvari razvijale na Kosovu u poslednjih par decenija, a posebno za vreme Miloševićeve vladavine.

Mislim da ruski stav nije motivisan brigom za istorijska prava Srbije, nego sopstvenim interesima. Za Rusiju je stvar prestiža da se dokazuje. To nije ništa novo, Rusi su to činili i ranije, ostvarujući na taj način političke i ekonomske interese. Problem je što ne postoji ništa što bi se današnjoj Rusiji moglo ponuditi.

Govori se o potrebi da se Rusija po pitanju Kosova zauzda, ali niko još nije izašao sa konkretnim predlogom na koji način to može da se izvede.

Paradoksalno, ali ovakav ruski stav je štetan po Srbiju.


Ma kakva istorijska prava

Ma kakva istorijska prava Srba. Rusi se rukovode iskljucivo sopstvenim interesima i to je to.


А шта ако су

А шта ако су Русима у интересу историјска права Срба? Онда се руководе и тим.


Rusija ima svoje interese.

Rusija ima svoje interese. Njih interesuju istorijska prava Srba samo do one mere koja to njima odgovara.


Ништа ми није јасно

Шта се конкретно замера овом Путиновом говору, осим што се допада слушаоцима Радио Фокуса? Сада сам га први пут прочитао у целости, целокупна западна "слободна" штампа га је углавном игнорисала, и стварно сам захвалан постављачу блога.

Међутим, на први поглед, све је тачно што је рекао.


to sepulturero

gde nadjoste svi ove nikove, nikako da popamtim i pogodim.

gledacu danas u toku dana da dam odgovor na to zasto samo na prvi pogled taj tekst izgleda ok, ako i tada.

iznesene su nps potpuno netacne antiglobalisticke teze o efektima i razlozima medjunarodne pomoci zemljama u raZvoju i nerazvijenim. zatim netacne ocene o broju zrtava u sukobima u svetu trenutno.

o osce, nadam se da ce to neko kompetentniji, ali je taj deo vrlo, vrlo indikativan.


M&M bombonice

Ono sto je “sporno” u Putinovom govoru je da je on samo opisao situaciju u svetu kakva jeste i kako bi je opisao bilo koji iskren brucos mirovnih ili politickih studija ili svaki politicki idealista:

1. PUTIN NAS OBAVESTAVA: “Ono sto se desava u danasnjem svetu je pokusaj da se u internacionalne odnose ubaci concept unipolarnog sveta.” [Vladavina JEDNE oligarhije, prim. prev.]

2. PUTIN NASTAVLJA: “Danas smo svedoci skoro neobuzdane hiper upotrebe sile – vojne sile – u internacionalnim odnosima. [IRAQ i AFGHANISTAN za neupucene, prim.prev.], sile koja obrusava SVET u bezdan PERMANENTNIH konflikta. Kao rezultat toga, ne nalazimo dovoljno snage da iznadjemo sveobuhvatno resenje ni za jedan od ovih konflikta. Iznalazenje politickog resenje takodje postaje nemoguce.”

3. PUTIN KAZE: “Vidimo sve veci i veci prezir prema osnovim prinicipima internacionalnog prava [Mr Lyons mi pada na pamet sa svojim mrmljanjima o artificijelnim konstruktima suverenosti, prim.prev.]. ..

4.PUTIN: Jedna drzava, prevashodno Sjedinjenje Drzave, je presla svoje drzavne granice na svaki nacin. Ovo je vidljivo u ekonomskom, politickom, kulturnom i skolskim [edukativnim!! obrati paznu] smernicama [policies] koje NAMECE ostalom svetu. Pa ko ovo voli? Ko je srecan zbog ovog? “[Jedino apartcici poput Mr. Lyons-a i onih koji ocekuju da stignu do plate nekog bogatog NVOa ili neke evropske ustanove, prim.prev.??]

5. PUTIN: “U internacionalnim odnosima vidimo, sve vise, zelju da se resenje na postavljeno pitanje resava prema principima politicke potrebe, zasnovane na trenutnoj politickoj klimi.” [ICG i njeni polusvesni akoliti nam to pokazuju. “Danas Turska, sutra Vizantija, prekostura Albanija, nista nije vazno, osim da se kotrlja i da plata stize.”]

6. PUTIN: “Ovo je ekstremno opasno. Rezultira cinjenicom da se niko ne oseca bezbednim. Zelim da naglasim ovo – niko se ne oseca bezbednim! Jer niko ne oseca da je medjunarodno pravo kao kameni bedem koji ce ih odbraniti. Naravno takva politika stimulisu trku u naoruzanju.”

7. PUTIN: “Sta se desava danas? Mi vidimo da je balans unisten. Ljudi pokusavaju da transformisu OSCE (KEBS) u vulgarni instrument dizajniran da promovise spoljne politicke interese jedne grupe drzava. I ovaj zadatak vrsi birokratski aparat koji je apsolutno bez veze sa zemljama osnivacima. Procedure odlucivanja i uplivi takozvanih NEVLADINIH ORGANIZACIJA su skrojeni za taj zadatak. Ove organizacije su formalno nezavisne ali su sa namerom finansiranje i tako pod kontrolom.” [Ne mogu izbaciti drcnog Lyons-a iz glave.]

8. PUTIN nastavlja: “Prema osnivackim dokumentima, u humanitarnoj sferi OSCE je dizajniran da pomaze drzave da se cuvaju normi internacionalnih ljudskih prava po njihovom pozivu. Ovo je vazan zadatak. Ovo podrzavamo. Ali to ne znaci mesanje u unutrasnje odnose drugih drzava, i narocito ne znaci nametanje rezima koji odredjuje kako drzave zive i razvijaju se.”

Medjutim teze vladajuce svetske oligarhije i njenih liberalnih apartcika ili birokrata poput Mr. Lyonsa su u direktnoj suprotnosti sa Putinovim. Oni bi hteli da nam zamute oci “albanskim zrtvama” da ne vidimo mnogo vecu sliku, preko 500,000 mrtvih Iracana i mnogo drugih epizodnih zrtava u celom svetu.

Primamljivija mi je teza Chomskog da je Srbija bila primorana na koriscenje oruzane sile. Sto je i logicno jer internacionalna oligarhija nije stitila suverenost Jugoslavije kad je mogla a suverenost Srbije dovodi u pitanje. A GOSPODA M&M zamenjuju teze i kaznjavaju zrtvu.

Naravoucenije: NE BUDITE NAIVNI.


Путинов говор

Путинов говор видим као нешто изузетно позитивно, и у потпуности се слажем са твојом анализом истог. Али остави г. Лиона на миру, човек је за три копља испред многих других, ако ни због чег другог онда зато што нам дозвољава да га овде разбуцавамо :)


То што зовеш "разбуцавањем" Џејмса Лајона

То што зовеш "разбуцавањем" Џејмса Лајона за које мислиш да он тако благонаклоно дозвољава (мада ја у ту благонаклоност нисам тако чврсто убеђена као ти јер је и код њега било брисања постова без икаквог очигледног повода), управо је оно што и њему и његовом послодавцу ICG-у даје алиби. Сви ти "ретроградни" Срби који имају дрскости да се не сложе са цењеним господином, самим својим постојањем оправдавају пред Џејмсовим шефовима George-oм, Martti-јем, Warren-ом и осталима, издатак београдске канцеларије ICG-a. (Та канцеларија ипак не мари претерано за квалитет и не бира само најбоље, већ су им очигледно добри и осредњи. Како пише у биографији цењене госпође из m&m тандема, она је "Od 2001. do 2003. radila kao istraživač i analitičar u Međunarodnoj kriznoj grupi, kancelarija za SCG." А то какав је аналитичар она могла да буде, јасно је из ових блогова.)
Срдачан поздрав,
семеле


Мислим да се

Мислим да се такве одлуке формирају на основу истраживања јавног мњења а не на основу посећености блогова.


У принципу можда, мада бих рекла да су такве одлуке

У принципу можда, мада бих рекла да су такве одлуке у највећој мери вођене политичким потребама, предрасудама и инерцијом. Истраживања јавног мњења, па и блоговање као један видљиви сегмент тог мњења су ту да само додатно илуструју оно што се хоће. (Без обзира на то, Џејмс није некакав аљкави лези-'лебу-да-те-једем тип, он макар дискутује са својим критичарима (за разлику од m&m бомбонице, довољно је погледати само ове one liner-e којима "одговара" крпељу крпељићу)).


Ni ja nisam video nesto

Ni ja nisam video nesto sporno u Putinovom govoru, posebno kada je rec o politici SAD-a. Druga prica je sama Rusija i Putin.
Takodje, sto se tice medija kod nas vecinom je u njih usao nemacki kapital i naravno to ima svoje posledice. Ja od sada kada citam clanke vrlo vodim racuna o tome ko ih pise.

Radio Fokus je celodnevni pescanik, ali na njihov nacin, uz digresiju da na Pescaniku moze da se cuje i poneko pametno i neutralno misljenje


Nista se nije videlo, ni culo, ni zasmredelo

Liberalni Guardian od proslog petka kaze u naslovu: “RUSIJA SE SPREMA ZA NOVI HLADNI RAT”. Ovo vise govori o apsolutno rasprodatoj dupelizackoj liberalnoj levici Engleske nego o bilo kakvim realnostima ovog sveta.

Ideoloska zaslepljenost pro-americke politike liberalne GOSPODE je ono sto njima ne onemogucava dublje sagledavanje politicke situacije na planeti ili u specificnog slucaja Srbije. Tako ni reci ruskog predsednika, koji je sigurno neuporedivo mnogo vise obavesten o svemu nego mi, ne mogu da se sagledaju u svom znacenju, kao sto ni preko 500,000 mrtvih Iracana ne znaci nista njima.


ni vase reci nam, takodje, nista ne znace

Quote:
Tako ni reci ruskog predsednika, koji je sigurno neuporedivo mnogo vise obavesten o svemu nego mi, ne mogu da se sagledaju u svom znacenju, kao sto ni preko 500,000 mrtvih Iracana ne znaci nista njima.


ouch

500,000 Iraqis!?


ni njih nije toliko

ako vec pretendujete da budete referentan sagovornik sa drugih ideoloskih pozicija. ovako zvucite kao putin.


nonsense

500,000 mrtvih smo odavno prekoracili, samo ja ne cepidlacim, i ne racunam crnacke i latino najamnike u USA vojsci.
govorim o principima koje vi pogresno zastupate.
da vas podsetim sadam husein je imao tajno oruzije i velike zalihe koje skrivao.
a sada iran hoce nuklearke. Putin nudi medjunarodnu kontrolisanu proizvodnju uranijuma. ali oligarhija zeli monopol.
secate se velikog Srbina koji je gazio po malim nacijama bivse jugoslavije? ali ko u stvari ide po svetu i gazi koga stigne?

DON'T BE NAIVE!


ps

druge ideoloske pozicije?
vas problem je sto niste svesni sopstvenih ideoloskih pozicija. sudeci po vasem pisaniju osim srbomrzackih pozicija na kojima crvsto stojite i sumljivoj civilizacijskoj vrednosti gej-paradiranja u gradskim parkovima sa dobrom zurkom i zezom, vi nemate drugih IDEOLOSKIH pozicija.


Krpeljiću...

...hajde mi probaj razjasniti šta znači "srbomrzačka pozicija"? Prosto, da znamo o čemu pričamo...


sa zalosnim zadovoljstvom cu prionuti tom poslu

u medjuvremenu evo informacija za gospodju odozgo.

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655000 ...Washington Post stories and multimedia reports about Iraq, Afghanistan, ... The new study estimates that about 500000 more Iraqis, both civilian and ...
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html


oprostite na kasnjenju izazvanog promenom prebivalista

srbomrzac je po mom misljenju neko ko namerno razara temelje srpske zajednice i srpskog drustva unoseci sa emotivnim zarom razarajuce elemente uglavnom pokupljenje iz tradicije drugih zajednica.

sada vise nije u pitanju nesvesna teznja , vec veoma proracunata programska politika kakva je bila na primer komunisticka. srpski komunisti i naprednjaci su se uglavnom definisali kao jugosloveni a ne srbi.

dok su na primer, engleski ili americki liberali svih mogucih pravaca sasvim i uvek ujedinjeni u spoljnoj politici (odnosima sa evropom, ratovima na balkanu i bliskom istoku itd), “srpski” liberali su sjedinjeni sa anglo-americkim ciljevima, a ne srpskim ciljevima. zato oni zele i da se definisu kao neka druga “grupa” unutar srbije, na primer kao albanci, cigani, zene, druga srbija ili gejz.

ta politika je sasvim protivrecna jer gore pomenute grupe nisu sve bazirane na liberalnim vrednostima, i Francis Fukoyama kaze: “Liberalism cannot ultimately be based on group rights, because not all groups uphold liberal values.” (Prospect, Feb. 2007)


Зашто мислиш да

Зашто мислиш да МиМ није свестан сопствених идеолошких позиција?


Hvala ti na prijateljskim savetima Smolenski

implikacija da je moja ideologija drukcija od M&M ideologije nas vodi ili ka diskusiji o ideologijama, sto nije moja namera, ili ka zakljucku da jedna istina tj. jedno istinito resenje ne postoji.

ja mislim da postoji pravo resenje koje je nase resenje, tj. onih koji zive na ovom tlu. a pogresno resenje je nametnuto sa druge strane okeana.

danas, unutar postojecih 192 clanica UN, postoji 192 veoma specificnih drzavnih ustrojstava. svaka drzava ima svoje resenje kojim se odnosi postojecih grupa regulisu.
ako nasa drzava zeli da se ustroji na jedan samo-odredjen nacin to je njeno pravo da tako uradi. cinjenica je da se druge drzave protive ustrojstvu srbije i da hoce da ga promene, ali oni takodje zele i da primoraju srbiju da ona na to pristane sama.

drzave koje zele da promene ustrojstvo srbije rade to na osnovu svojih prinicipa, pa osim sto zele da promene ustrojstvo srbije, ONE HOCE DA SRBIJA I PRISVOJI PRINCIPE TE GRUPE DRZAVA.

znaci ne trazi se od srbije samo prihvatanje promena svog medjunarodonog i unutrasnjeg ustrojstva vec i prihvatanje principa na osnovu kojih se to radi.

kao prvo, ako te drzave zele da promene ustrojstvo srbije on to ocigledno mogu samo na osnovu sile. kao drugo, one to mogu putem sile i uraditi I NIJE IM POTREBNA SAGLASNOST SRBIJE.

zasto se M&M stavovi podudaraju? da li M&M svesno u sluzbi mocne svetske oligarhije?

ako je milich svestan borac u sluzbi mocne svetske oligarhije onda nikako nije vazna moja “ideoloska” pozicija, vec samo pozicija sa stanovista nepripadnosti svetskoj oligarhiji.


Pozdrav za LW..

..nedostajala si.
Pažljivo sam pročitao tekst i šta da kažem, dopada mi se.
Istranžirala si precizno današnje stanje jedne velike srpske zablude i prepreke za političku i društvenu normalnost, zvanu "majka Rusija". To je još jedan mit od koga se na žalost uspešno pravi naopaka politika.
To seme iz koga je nikao korov, davno je zasejano u srpskoj političkoj svesti. To rusko narodnjaštvo, sa carom, sekirom i ikonom, kao političkom opsesijom, stiglo je u Srbiju još polovinom 19. veka i njegovi nosioci su radikali, kako onda, tako i danas. A radikali su danas u rasponu od T. Nikolića, preko Dačića do Koštunice.
Nije samo Fokus taj koji nosi rusku narodnjačku priču.
Njen centar je zapravo NSPM, odakle je razlivena po dnevnoj štampi od Politike do Pressa. Pogledaj RTS, i videćeš koliko je toga tamo. Dakle, ovo je vreme nove kontaminacije ruskim narodnjaštvom. Putin kao nova ikona.
U tom kontekstu je NIN onako surovo i gotovo suludo napao Latinku Perović, koja je to u naučnoj javnosti najbolje demistifikovala.
No, ispušiće opet domaći narodnjaci ali to ih neće lišiti njihovih zabluda. Nego,ismejavati ih treba, gde god je moguće.


to drago

pa vidim da sam te razmazila:)

nego gde nestade cirjakovic, nema ga u nekoliko brojeva :)

salu nastranu, nekako mnogo vise citam o USA vanjskoj politici, kako se i gde i ko je sve formira, o globalizaciji, etc, i obicno iz te i takve literature, FA, Brookings Institution, Economist,CFR publikacije etc citam i o Rusiji danas, da ne bude zabune, biasd ok, jesam, mozda.

citam i NIN redovno, ima sad tekst o energetskoj slici, gasovodima, o eu i drugima koji sad placaju putinu brzinu kojom su u jecinovoj i postjelcinovoj rusiji ulazili na trziste i u busotine, ...sve u svemu Putin je divan i krasan.

ovo cisto da napomenem da nisma vlasna, iako me tema jako zanima. nekom sam vec odgovorila, ovde u srbiji se priziva bas ta narodnjacka autoritarna rusija, ne neka demokratska rusija, konsolidovana, sa postovanjem HR, ne homofobicna, ne ksenofobna,...

da, regionalna sila, cak ne smao rusija vec mozd ai kina i indija, jer nije samo GDP ili neki drugi ekonomski indikator merilo uticaja....jos uvek je to utilisation of force, will, kako god.

citam opet ovih dana negde kao sto nisu dosli ranije EU da smiriju na Kosovu, neko nas pise u komentarima, mislim, da li ti ljudi pomisle da intervencije van granica podrzaumeva i gubljenje ljudstva. kad nam odgovara onda se bunimo sto MZ nije ranije reagovala, kad ne onda smo okupirani.

sto se govora tice, j...me sto su sve moje refernce u pisanoj mi formi smao, nema slobodnog pristupa FA ili nekim drugim izvorima, pa moram da ukucavam, ali hocu, jer je bas izneo vrlo kontradiktorne stavove o efektima i povodima pomoci nerazvijenom svetu npr.


Evo, da upodobim..o)

Ova prva rečenica je van konteksta. Čitam nešto o Jovanu Ristiću i naiđem na kvalifikaciju da je bio "lider desnog krila liberala"..o)

E sad, oko ovog "upodobljavanja" na našoj sceni. Strašno je to što mi uopšte nema definisane spoljne politike, nego je to udaranje od zida do zida. Kao političko-filozofsku osnovu za tu definiciju, a ja se nadam da ćeš ti jednom raditi u timu koji će to definisati, ja bih uzeo ono izlaganje Borisa Budena objavljeno u "Peščaniku" pre nove godine. Ne znam dali si to slušala.
Što se tiče odnosa SAD - Rašija i sadašnjeg stanja, to je prelomljeno definitivno. Rusija hoće još da glumi globalnu silu, a to ne može biti. I zato su poruke Putina veoma kontradiktorne. Meni je "najupodobljenija" ona poruka o antiraketnim sistemima. Nju čitam kao "držanje" straha od nove trke i neko unapred spremljeno objašnjenje za domaću javnost.
No, sve te stvari će biti još mnogo jasnije kad u SAD na vlast dođu demokrati. Mislim da će narednih desetak godina biti u njihovom znaku.


antiraketni stit u govoru i OSCE

Se odnosio na Poljsku i USA! Velika tema, poljska namera da pusti SAD da to instaliraju.

BTw, citam skoro esej o tome kako je u svim zemljama istocne Evrope, novim EU clanicama doslo do democratic decline, kako su desnice na vlasti....Pa analiza zasto,etc.

meni je to zanimljivo, zato sto i mnogi quick-fix ekperti za Balkan i Srbiju i domaci i strani samo pricaju o ekonomskom oporavku kao preduslovu za stabilizaciju, bla, bla...nije, eto su i te zemlje to imale, ali to jos ocito nije dovolnjo i za konsolidaciju demokratije saglasno 21 veku.

As for govor, ovaj deo o OSCE je meni bio jako, jako zanimljiv. Pazi, odluke sa Istambulskog samita se jos ne sprovode, ma kako se Putin busa u prsa sa povlacenjem trupa, i sam OSCE je u velikoj blokadi zbog toga. Te je iz OSCE svih ovih godina stizala i najseobuhvatnija kritika stanja postovanja ljdskih prava u rusiji. covece, oni imaju ogrnicenu slobodu kretanja za svoje gradjane!


Da stvarno...

..to o OSCE. Ovo o NVO, naši genijalci od njega "prepisuju". A, dobro mu je ovo da se preliva daleko preko granica...Mislim da tu ima izborne priče, ali on je opasno egzaltirao ove naše "baćuškofile".
Posle Staljina, nikoga ovako oduševljeno nisu slavili.o))
Još da Putin ima brkove, gde bi mu bio kraj..


ima i jedno dobro

u celom zlu. Naime, neizvesnost koja ubija, muči i mori svakoga na temu sa koje strane Nove Gvozdene Zavese ćemo se naći - ne postoji.

Već sada je sasvim izvesno da ćemo biti u Istočnom bloku. Možda će se novi blok zvati i Beogradski pakt. Ovo otud što je novo geopolitičko oružje gas, a kod nas će novi ruski gasovod ići od (negde valjda) Vranja, pa sve do Šapca.

Tako za budućnost ne moramo da brinemo, već je poznata...


Ma, ne...

...Rusija može biti samo regionalna sila i ništa više.
Nikad više bipolarne podele. Suviše su interesi isprepleteni.


voleo bih da je tako

ali iz navike verujem i Vremenu http://www.vreme.com/cms/view.php?id=487285


Ja više...

..nekako verujem Bzezinskom. "Za šahovskom tablom", tamo sve piše.o)


Tako je. Evo npr. Sreder je

Tako je. Evo npr. Sreder je trenutno direktor one gasne kompanije, Merkelova se odlicmo druzi sa Putinom, a bogami ni Bus nije gadljiv


nixone

mislis da bush nije gadljiv na merkelovu?


Izgleda da nisam dobro

Izgleda da nisam dobro napisao.

Nisam upucen u odnose Busa i Merkelove. Hteo sam da kazem da Bus nije gadljiv na Putina


nixone

mislis da je i bush homoseksualac?


Ne, izgleda...

...da misli da je Teksašanin.o)


On je biseksualac

On je biseksualac


ma obojica će

da nagnaju babu.


A niksone...

...onda je Putin homoseksualac.o)


drago

sad mi je jasno odakle ono: "srbija se saginjati nece":-)))


Svako saginjanje...

...nosi rizik.o)


Nije, njemu je draza baba,

Nije, njemu je draza baba, mada onaj Sreder...o)


srederu

je draza gasna kompanija:-)


a baš me zanima

sa kime opšti Lukašenko. Jal mu se sviđa Angela ili Vladimir? Jel prevagnula estetika ili geopolitika?


sa solanom...o(

sa solanom...o(


bravo!

taj je ko Džon Holms, prska na sve strane, gde stigne!


trol patrol

alo, alo...
zasto mi se cini da se nad ovim tredom nadvio duh velje ilica koji obozava madlen olbrajt!


Velika regija nema sta!

Prilepi Iran, Indiju i Kinu radi boljeg sagledavanja.


velika tema

i nije bas izvesno to sa gasovodom.

ono sto je ipak najvaznije je stanje svesti nasih gradjana, da li su oni za autoritarnu vlast ili istinsku demokratiju sa postovanjem ljudsih prava i vladavinom prava


Da dopunim ovaj tvoj

Da dopunim ovaj tvoj FOKUS.
U nedelu slucajno sam se ukljucila u emisiju ZIKINA SARENICA na RTS-u.Kad tamo gostuje Miodrag Popovic.Propagira turisticki sajt bez srama i stida.
Treba li komentar?


odgovorni multilaterlizam !

"Mi podržavamo Beograd i Prištinu da se potpuno konstruktivno uključe u ovaj proces. I na kraju, održivo rešenje za Kosovo mora se zasnivati na odgovornom multilateralizmu. Mi očekujemo da će se Rusija pridružiti ovoj viziji rešenja kosovskog problema, uključujući i Savet bezbednosti Ujeidnjenih nacija. Kosovo jeste i biće prvi test multilateralnosti", kaže Ren


šta je uopšte..

..radio Fokus?? Ja nikad čuo, a kao pratim scenu.


radio fokus

ima nacionalnu frekvenciju. meni ga "preporucila" drugarica jos pre par meseci, kaze ne moze se opisati to zlo treba ga slusati i o njemu pisati. izgleda da je bila skroz u pravu.

izgleda da ga treba staviti u fokus.


Fokus

se mora staviti na ovo!
http://www.politika.co.yu/detaljno.php?nid=19629
Neverovatan tekst Antonica i direktan poziv na odmazdu prema neistomisljenicima. Podsecam da je posle ovakvog slicnog teksta ubijen Curuvija.


to logomed-antonic u politici

ej, uze mi rec iz usta. sad cekam da prodje blog politicki korektnih 24 casa pa da pustim novi o tom antonicu u dansnjoj politici!


Ovo je strašno...

...odavno nešto ovak huškačo nisam pročitao.
Evo odnosa prema NVO, čisti "putinovski" sa natruhama balkanskog primitivizma i pizme.


pravim blog

odose sve maske i rukavice. kakav kurir, to se ni ne pretvara, nema pretenzije, ovo ....ja nemam reci. u stvari imam.

oov je uvod u atmosferu koju ce praviti posle 26 i oko 26.


pravim blog

odose sve maske i rukavice. kakav kurir, to se ni ne pretvara, nema pretenzije, ovo ....ja nemam reci. u stvari imam:).

ovo je uvod u atmosferu koju ce praviti posle 26 i oko 26.


Ma pazi ovo...

...jednoga dana, da, da, jednoga dana.
Pazi ove "seksističke paralele".
Ovaj čovek je ili bolestan ili je veliko zlo.


mene majke mi.

..malo blam pred samim sobom. Pa bre, nekada sam ovog Antonića gledao na tv i klimao glavom sa odobravanjem..kao..pametan čovek, u al je opleo togitog i te fore. Pa dodatno sebi pojačam blam, kad shvatim da sam klimao glavom i na Vuksanovića, Čavoškog, Tijanića??!!, Šamija, Vladetu, ovog što priča sa sovom (5.10, sve u 16), Tadića, sve ove štancovane iz DS, kojima više ne znam ni imena, Cekića, b92, spo, glas, danas...nema bre kome nisam klimao glavom sa odobravanjem.
A vidi danas..ovaj profesionalni pravoslavac, ovaj profesionalni patriota, ovaj dobrovoljni davalac tudje krvi..ovaj me smara sa "i ja sam Rom" (nisam brate, a nisi ni ti, nego je tvoj bol valjda veći, pa moraju da ti plate da se zalečiš)..
Kad malo bolje razmislim..autentični sam šaran.
A kad se tome doda i tradicionalno povraćanje na crkvu, vojsku, miliciju, institucije, sudstvo, novine, televizije, fokuse, kurire, advokate, svete zemlje, dočeke košarkaša, dočeke novih godina, menjam ženu, draga mama, telefonske kvizove, PRove, trube, exite, delte, maxije, estradu, "gradske face" i ruralne fizionomije...e, kad se sve to doda, onda ne samo da sam šaran, nego sam i savršeno irelevantan za bilo šta, jer sam previše nadrkan da bih bio konstruktivan.


reanimatore,

uz tebe sam, ako ti je išta lakše.

Slabo smo konstruktivni, a treba da živimo. Kako? Pojma nemam.


Koliko me služi pamćenje

srpsko " javno mnenje " nikada nije postavilo pitanje Cekiću i Vasiću i ostalim fantomima iz RRA povodom njihove odluke da dodele nacionalnu frekvenciju fašističkom glasilu. Kada su donosili ovu važnu odluku verovatno su bili pod mističnim uticajem vladike koji sedi u RRA i stara se da mediji u Srbiji imaju blagoslov SPC.


1 200 000

je vrlo zanimljiva cifra.Kao da se poklapa sa brojem glasača SRS.
Juče na Duletovom blogu pomenut je prota Mateja Nenadović.Pa, kad bi makar neko od tih 1 200 000 rusofila pročitao odlomak iz protinih memoara, gde on opisuje svoj put u majčicu Rusiju pred početak ustanka, možda bi nešto i shvatio.Siroti prota je prošao kroz horor prepreke na putu, da bi u Rusiji bio smešten u nekom bednom nazovi prenoćištu i primljen od pomoćnika zamenika ministra inostranih dela, ili nekog sličnog, koji je pred razočaranog protu istresao gomilu frazetina o ruskim interesima koje ne treba ugrožavati zaoštravanjem odnosa sa tada ogromnom Otomanskom imperijom...Dvesta godina kasnije ništa se nije promenilo.Kao što neće ni za dvesta, ako Srbija bude postojala.A tadašnji ruski ministar će srpskog kolegu najzad udosotjiti iskrenim odgovorm na pitanje o njegovim problemima:"Frankly, my dear..."


putinova cestitka srpskom narodu-a ostalim gradjanima?

Čestitka Putina: Podrška zahtevu da se poštuje međunarodno pravo
Ruski predsednik Vladimir Putin ocenio je da će ova godina biti odlučujuća u rešavanju problema Kosova i dodao da će Rusija, „kao i pre“, pružati podršku legitimnim zahtevima srpskog rukovodstva, zasnovanim na striktnom poštovanju principa međunarodnog prava. „Prisne veze, koje su se istorijski stvorile između naroda naših zemalja, predstavljaju čvrst osnov za progresivan razvoj rusko - srpskih odnosa“, navodi se u čestitki koju je Putin poslao predsedniku Srbije Borisu Tadiću povodom 15. februara - Dana državnosti. Putin je ocenio da međusobne veze Rusije i Srbije poslednjih godina beleže „visoku dinamiku, otvorenost i veru u politički dijalog“.

„Želim Vam, gospodine predsedniče, dobro zdravlje i uspehe, a celom srpskom narodu mir i prosperitet“, naveo je Putin u čestitki


Kad porastem...

...biću Putin i imaću brkove.o)))


Sejmeni dolaze ...

... lance nam donose
tra la la

chak su i uredno, po propisu pozvani.

ma idi ... predlog "Vlade"! skupshitni... surprised ?


Prisne veze

Majko mila, spadaju nam gace same! Sada sam ubedjen da je situacija katastrofalna, evo nadlecu i lesinari... Ovi kada se ukljuce, bice svega (ali loseg), jer nema trenutka kada nas nisu prevarile ruje, od Prvog Srpskog Ustanka, pa na ovamo.


Ma kakav Putin evo sta kazu