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Beli Dvor

The Royal FamilyThe Royal FamilyPerhaps it’s because I was raised in a country that prides itself on a foundation of long-severed monarchial ties, but I just don’t get the concept of a royal family. After all, what good are they really for other than filling the pages of tabloids and taking up desirable real estate in their respective capital cities?

That’s why I’m particularly perplexed by the fact that, despite more than forty years of communism and a decade under Milošević, Serbia once again has a crown prince.

Generally speaking, the concept of royalty at this day in age is a bit antiquated, but the story of Serbia’s Karađorđević dynasty is just plain convoluted. The Karađorđević claim is based on the rebellious actions of a cattle farmer back in 1804, but this claim was repeatedly contested throughout the 19th century by Serbia’s other royal family, the Obrenovići. The contest was brought to an end in 1903 when a political coop literally threw Aleksandar Obrenović out the window and re-instated Petar Karađorđević as the constitutional monarch. The Karađorđević family ruled Serbia and later the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but then fled to England during World War II. When Partisans took control of the country, the family was forbidden to return and their property confiscated.

This exile lasted more than half a century, and would seem the perfect opportunity for the Karađorđevići to make a graceful exit. Yet instead of simply bowing down and accepting the end to a dynasty that spent more time in exile than in power, the family returned in 2001, reclaiming the crown and more than 300 acres of Belgrade real estate, an ironically easy process given the state of property reclamation for the average private citizen in Serbia.

Today, the Karađorđević family fully reflects the fifty-year separation of country and king, demonstrating a lesser connection to Serbia than that held by the average diaspora family in say Chicago or Toronto.

The three sons were all born in the United States and visited Serbia just once prior to October 5th. Quite well educated, they all speak three languages, of which Serbian is not one, but they’re working it, the official website of the Royal Family of Serbia explains.

Though his sons were born on foreign soil, the Crown Prince, who himself is frequently criticized for his poor Serbian, was technically born in Yugoslavia. He was actually born in suite 212 of the Claridge's Hotel in London, but the British Government declared the room a territory of Yugoslavia just for the occasion.

Now that the family is back and residing in their royal palace, visitors can arrange to tour the grounds, including Beli Dvor (the White Palace), the Royal Palace and its surrounding gardens. Last week I joined one such tour and found that, like many things here, the more I learned about Serbia’s royal family and its home, the less I understood the logic behind their existence.

The tour, led by a small woman accompanied by several large, un-uniformed security guards, was filled with grandiose yet unsubstantiated claims of greatness and was permeated by an amateur desire to impress.

Beli Dvor itself was rather barren, and as its name may suggest, resembled a lesser version of the White House. On its walls hung paintings “of great importance,” our guide repeated, only briefly mentioning that for a good number of them the artist’s identity or the painting’s authenticity was held in question. Beli Dvor is also home to the royal library, whose collection of books was chosen not for the knowledge conveyed in their pages, but for the aesthetic quality with which the books filled each shelf. Somehow this concern for aesthetics did not apply to the library’s main table, whose otherwise seamless leather cover was dotted with cigarette burns.

The Royal Palace was a bit more impressive with its sun-lit balcony overlooking acres of forest, a surprising sight in the middle of a city otherwise filled with towering concrete apartment buildings, and with its beautifully decorated basement cinema, apparently the first of its kind in the Balkans. Yet despite its beauty, the palace was marred by well-preserved and carefully displayed traces of the Partisan era. Marble columns are still tinted red from a communist paint job, peep-holes still remain in walls where Tito’s spies watched visitors to his residence and, in the palace chapel, a bullet hole remains between the eyes of Jesus, who looks down on visitors from the chapel ceiling. The image of Christ was shot by disrespectful Partisans, but instead of repairing the bullet hole during the chapel’s recent renovations, our guide explained, overseers of the repairs strategically left it as “a mark of the tragic history that has befallen the Serbian nation.”

At the conclusion of our tour, we were all given large photos of the Royal Family, complete with the grainy, computer-printed signature of each family member. So now, while I may not understand why Serbia once again has an in-house Crown Prince, I can mount his eight by ten glossy on my wall.


awe...

There is no logic is Serbia my dear.


It could, maybe, be

It could, maybe, be interesting to say that the prince's great-grandmother is Empress Victoria


A moja

čukunbaba Bikvelinka.


Rekao sam it may be, nista

Rekao sam it may be, nista drugo


It is matter of style.

It is matter of style. Personally, I always prefer royal institutions such as Royal Railways, Royal Post, Royal Yachting Squadron or Royal Air Force over communist railways, post office or air forces.


it is really matter of style.

Then you never flew with Royal Air Maroc! ;-))

The prefix "royal" doesn't mean "better" by default.


a

sta cemo sa Madame Royal iz Francuske?
Ona je bas cool....


No, I haven't, but I flew with JAT once :(

But, as I said, it is just matter of style.


Dear Lucy, yes

It's probably because you were raised in a country of cowboys and Jerry Springer that you can not get the concept of a royal family.This was not with bad intention it's just a fact and we undertsand that.If you would be an English young woman you would understand it much better. Maybe it will be interesting and probably educational for you to know also that princes Jelisaveta Karadjordjević was playing a pilow fight with Prince Charles ( yes, that prince Charls ) and that his Mother is her Godmother.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Elizabeth_of_Yugoslavia
It is good to have a royal family to 'fil tabloids' cause it says something about the history of your country. You may notice that royal families all over the world doing prety much the same thing--fill tabloids, do humanitarian work, make fondations and wigwag to their people.Here you can look and learn more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Yugoslavia_(b._1984)
This royal family may not know the language, wich is understandible since they were leaving somewhere else but it doesn't proof anything , actually it doesn't proove that we should give up on them besauce our history made them run away from here.But they are the proof of another one and it's a royal history of this country and they are trying to do their best probably. In case you're not familiar as you are obviously not this Princes Katarina saved life to one little girl by pooling her own strainghts and bringing the doctor from Greece and asking some other friends to give a plane cause it was matter of hours to save little girls life.You can see more of their activities here ( andI don't think they're much more different then activities of other royal families)
http://ssla.oneworld.net/article/view/120281/1/
http://www.royalfamily.org/press/press-det/stampa-964.htm
http://www.lifelineaid.org/PRESS_YU/press95.htm
etc
So as you can see dear Lucy this country has history of royal families since year 1200 http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Uro%C5%A1_IV_Du%C5%A1an.
This is also the country of very rich and different history, what those bulet hols proves (comunist history) but is also the country of birth and life of one Roman Emperor who brought Christianity to the world as a religion with Milan Edict in todays Milan Chatedral in Milano , Italy on year 313.
http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%A6%D0%B0%D1%80_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD
http://www.nistourism.org.yu/english.php?fld=4&str=0

I'm sure you have friends who can tranaslate this for you from Serbian and I'm also sure that you can find much more only if you try. I am also very much sure that American people doesn't know anything about not serbian history but any history beside amarican cowboys and indians and north and south war and that is understandable as well.
But then again, who needs to learn something about someone history in order to better understand those people or country when you have CNN ???

sorry for grammar mistakes but I was in a hurry


History, it seems, has

History, it seems, has little currency for Americans. I guess this is understandable, though I am interested in the commentary regarding the bullet hole in the roof of the aforementioned church - the choice to preserve it reminds me an awful lot of what one would find outside the Cleveland Museum of Art...

Irrespective of all this, however, I have one other comment: if one has trouble writing in accordance with the conventions of correct syntax and grammar, perhaps one should stop attempting to write like William Faulkner and instead try to emulate Ernest Hemingway.


"One" is she

and wasn't trying to writte like anyone just was pooting facts with no intentions.
Maybe just driven with desire to explain something about this people who was always judged before it was judged.

I learn french as well for 8 years. Considering correct syntax and grammar I have to ask how many more languages do you speak and writte?

pls no hard feelings


@bladerunner Covek nije

@bladerunner
Covek nije mislio nista lose, naprotiv, nije sve u zamagljenom stilu kojim je Fokner pisao, nego treba da slobodno pisete, "sirovo" i iskreno kao sto je Hemingvej pisao. Drugim recima ne obracajte paznju na gramatiku i sintaksu, vazan je sadrzaj.


For Micheal

Znam, zato sam se i ulogovala sada iako mi je princip da ne sedam za kompj.kuci van radnog vremena upravo sam htela da se izvinim sto sam prenaglila.

Macheal I am sorry to rush in reaction I know you didn't mean anything wrong.I'm just sensitive that this people can not wash away label of being "bad guys". I wanted to say that we had history before comunism and western world start to count our history since the period of comunism and Milosevic.
I apologize again to Lucy and Michael


It is about us

Not about royal family members. They are living now, and they will go - but royal legacy in Serbia will live as long as Serbia itself. Royal Serbia is an idea of our identity and way of life, the actual aristocracy are just the side effects, dear more or less but not crucial...You may like them on not, they are not the point. You did touch big peace of Serbia Lucy, of all of us. Thanks.

Lucy's description of "Beli Dvor" is very entertaining and I really enjoyed it. The place is not the world wonder for sure, however is the place of big importance, place connecting you with the real royal nature of Serbian people. Our most glorious part of history is connected for royal and royal-like times (Petar, Aleksandar, Tito...the same Serbian royal principle is to apply).
For the most prominent anti-Serbian PR-professionals is an option of Serbian monarchy restoration a real nightmare. Out of the corner there is easy to control. And the real friends of Serbia are encouraging this Serbian royal principle - it takes nothing away, but brings something in. Reading between Lucy's lines, I think she will be on our royal side soon.


Long live the Guillotine


A ti Pedjice

verovatno bi se odlicno snasao u nekoj grupnoj zabavi na Antoanetinom dvrou ;)
tacno mogu da te zamislim


Najgore što bih :)

Najgore što bih :)


Bush

English press often writes about your recent royal family Bush. HM Queen Elizabeth is just visiting them. It would be nice if Serbian royals would have greater role in local politics due to historical need for the authority. You might be aware of the similar Spanish case of democratic transition.


Getting awfully emotional over this one, are we?

This is an interesting one.

I'm tempted turn on some good royalist music and scream bloody murder about Lucy's comments...but since I'm only a royalist in my dreams of a perfect king, ruling a perfect serbia, I'll sit down, take a shot of sljiva and let my logic take over.

The Karadjordjevic Family has every right to the houses and land that their ancestors fought for, as the heirs to that family.

Leaders, all leaders, end up in one of two scenarios:

1) Self interest leads them into positions of influence, and they try their best to maintain this influence by minimally helping the average serf, while wetting their beaks to the maximum.

2) They truly want to inspire, encourage and lead their people to a better future. These ones still make sure their dinner is served first. If they eat last, they suffer from a genetic disorder which ensures a young death. That same disorder ensures that they remain humble, honest, caring and good hearted to the end.

So....I say we drop the titles. Those that wish to make king's of aristocrats do so with good intentions. But I'd make anyone of those people a king before I would do the same for the pretenders to the throne.